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flying_wahini

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60. I hate these chickenshit Dr.s who are scared to death to ACT. The Hippocratic Oath

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Sun Oct 6, 2024, 04:34 PM

Oct 6

phrase "First do no harm" Should hang in every surgical suite.

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I'm gonna woman'splain something to men here about abortion as health care. Just so you know. [View all] flying_wahini Oct 6 OP

Thank you for this clear and helpful explanation! spooky3 Oct 6 #1

great summary... thx for taking the time! WarGamer Oct 6 #2

It is refreshing and emboldoning FirefighterJo Oct 6 #3

You are very much welcome. This is a valuable service. eppur_se_muova Oct 6 #4

The only way to be ignorant of all this is... Girard442 Oct 6 #5

We went through three miscarriages central scrutinizer Oct 6 #6

Uglicans *NEVER* understand these things UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM. eppur_se_muova Oct 7 #95

Thank you! alwaysinasnit Oct 6 #7

And the already-born children, now without a mother. CrispyQ Oct 6 #8

Make this a talking point Blue Full Moon Oct 6 #31

It's not 'splaining when you answer questions, and I have one... Hugin Oct 6 #9

I can answer that. Yes. yardwork Oct 6 #14

I thought that was the case. Hugin Oct 6 #17

I had a uterine mole aka a molar pregnancy and had one. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 6 #25

You see... Hugin Oct 6 #51

Happy to help, Hugin. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 6 #77

Those are very rare. My MAGA ex sister in law had one and which had a 'stunted growth' fetus as well. flying_wahini Oct 6 #54

I had one. Lunabell Oct 6 #32

I'm so sorry, Lunabell. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 6 #78

Thanks. Lunabell Oct 6 #83

I had to have a D&C. . . Collimator Oct 6 #26

A similar circumstance occurred to someone I knew years ago... Hugin Oct 6 #44

Yeah, uncontrolled bleeding during menopause comes to mind. flying_wahini Oct 6 #50

Yes. I just had one. Whatthe_Firetruck Oct 6 #74

Thank you for sharing your experience. Hugin Oct 6 #85

Yes, I had one because of a condition called fibrous tumors. summer_in_TX Oct 6 #94

It seems like there are a wide variety of conditions... Hugin Oct 7 #97

Thank you for this explanation... MiHale Oct 6 #10

This is important information that many of us men are smart enough to trust women and their docs to handle appropriately bluesbassman Oct 6 #11

If men had to experience childbirth or even a heavy menstrual period milestogo Oct 6 #12

My Catholic raised (but non-practicing) mom used to say: Cadfael Oct 6 #19

My Catholic mom had surgery after ectopic pregnancy, D&C after miscarriage, had her tubes tied after the 8th child SharonAnn Oct 6 #24

Stuff the Virgin Mary never told us. BattleRow Oct 6 #38

And there would be a clinic... 3catwoman3 Oct 6 #42

I don't think it is as much lack of empathy but a misunderstanding that abortions (D&C's) really is flying_wahini Oct 6 #56

Thank you. In NC the Republican state legislature wouldn't allow public comments. yardwork Oct 6 #13

I think refusing to hear expert input about these laws is deliberate. ShazzieB Oct 6 #34

Yeah, the "irresponsible sluts" who are married Wednesdays Oct 6 #52

This is a fantastically concise explanation -- thank you! LauraInLA Oct 6 #15

I'm one of those men who didn't know this stuff.. Permanut Oct 6 #16

Awesome explanation! Thank you so much! Tanuki Oct 6 #18

Thank you. K&R. c-rational Oct 6 #20

I don't resent you 'splainin' all that. 'Splain away, though I know most of it... Wounded Bear Oct 6 #21

I had a miscarriage at 22 weeks and my husband and I waited in the ER littlemissmartypants Oct 6 #22

Recced and book marked! LostOne4Ever Oct 6 #23

Thanks for this! ShazzieB Oct 6 #27

One of my siblings had two boys malaise Oct 6 #28

This should be all over social media. nolabear Oct 6 #29

Thank you! This is so useful MaryMagdaline Oct 6 #30

Debbie Reynolds' miscarriages prior to Roe vs Wade MaryMagdaline Oct 6 #33

Just because something is normal and even necessary doesn't mean it's SAFE Warpy Oct 6 #35

Thank you for explaining! Elessar Zappa Oct 6 #36

THIS should be published on the front page of every major newspaper - TBF Oct 6 #37

You did good, flying wahini. After Dobbs, I guess everybody here heard me explode I was so triggered... Hekate Oct 6 #39

Your poor mother. Yes, I knew of so many women that came in for their 8,9 tenth pregnancies flying_wahini Oct 6 #59

My mom's choice of family doc was a good man. Dr O was a Roman Catholic, but no fanatic... Hekate Oct 6 #67

This is why I have been on DU for 20 years. My wife had two miscarriages madinmaryland Oct 6 #40

Thank you for this explanation LogDog75 Oct 6 #41

This is an excellent OP. MontanaMama Oct 6 #43

Thank you so much for this post!! Sogo Oct 6 #45

Thank you. It made me cry. To be so helpless and at the mercy of these goddamn thugs Joinfortmill Oct 6 #46

I hate these chickenshit Dr.s who are scared to death to ACT. The Hippocratic Oath flying_wahini Oct 6 #60

Good info. Thank you for posting. FSogol Oct 6 #47

This bugs me, and please forgive me calling anyone here an idiot. rockbluff botanist Oct 6 #48

You know it occurred to me that maybe that is part of the problem. That men flying_wahini Oct 6 #62

Very interesting. I readily found the Emily Martin article from 1991, and look forward to reading it Hekate Oct 6 #71

But how do you square this with a pregnancy that results from rape? CTyankee Oct 6 #81

Well, maybe this is over-simlifying, Mr.Bill Oct 7 #103

I agree 100% on that for sure. CTyankee Oct 7 #104

Wow, interesting! electric_blue68 Oct 6 #90

That's excellent detail LittleGirl Oct 6 #49

K&R Bayard Oct 6 #53

Yea, they are hearing nothing at 6 weeks. Pumping from the placenta makes a kind of swooshing sound. flying_wahini Oct 6 #64

Thanks for that... learned a few things!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 6 #55

Could you, or someone, please make a graphic nonfiction book with clear illustrations, and personal stories, Timeflyer Oct 6 #57

As I mentioned earlier, maybe we should use the term D&C instead of 'abortion'. It might help get thru. flying_wahini Oct 6 #65

Those books already exist, but you might have to look in the Women's Health section of bookstores... Hekate Oct 6 #76

And honestly, we shouldn't have. Doctors get years Ilsa Oct 6 #91

It's cruel to make women have to face a long road trip right after dealing with these sorts of medical complications. nt Shermann Oct 6 #58

K&R canetoad Oct 6 #61

I would bet you that most of the men on SCOTUS don't understand it all. flying_wahini Oct 6 #66

Someone at my job taught me the perfect retort GAJMac Oct 6 #63

I think women need medical professionals that take charge in these situations. And angry husbands. flying_wahini Oct 6 #68

It makes no sense that anyone else should care what is happening in the patients life. flying_wahini Oct 6 #69

um, Kali Oct 6 #70

I stand corrected. The latest figures I just saw said 60% . We were taught tripled and I didn't recheck. flying_wahini Oct 6 #72

Might want to edit the OP. Ms. Toad Oct 6 #93

Dear op: It isn't a rant. It's plain old, B.See Oct 6 #73

People familiar with genealogy know what happened to women in the past wnylib Oct 6 #75

Thank you for this very clear and excellent explanation. A must read! HeartsCanHope Oct 6 #79

K & R - this is an excellent post FakeNoose Oct 6 #80

I don't think most Republicans consider this kind of care an 'Abortion'. They consider it birth control. flying_wahini Oct 6 #82

Lifetime maternal death rate used to be 50% IbogaProject Oct 6 #84

This coming from a nurse bdamomma Oct 6 #86

Thank you, excellent post wendyb-NC Oct 6 #87

Your post raises one question for me hvn_nbr_2 Oct 6 #88

Thanks. Good job. philly_bob Oct 6 #89

Good explanation. mdbl Oct 6 #92

The thing that gets me is, these MAGA crazies want women to die because they couldn't sustain a pregnancy. mucholderthandirt Oct 7 #96

woman'splaining means telling the truth if..fish..had..wings Oct 7 #98

Every GOP politician should read this. surfered Oct 7 #99

This is Great Mr. Mustard 2023 Oct 7 #100

Thank you Wild blueberry Oct 7 #101

Labor and delivery nurse friend KT2000 Oct 7 #102

Fantastic post. You put several points into context lostnfound Oct 8 #105