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Ms. Toad

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17. I was largely out of the photography business during that time frame.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 12:34 PM
Oct 7

I bought my first digital camera around 2005, and I tend to be a late adopter (from a practical standpoint - although not necessarily from a theoretical standpoint). Even if I have decided I like something new better, I wait until supply/demand has balanced out enough that I can justify spending money on it. Before that, however (between 2000 and 2005), I started pretty extensive use of an electronic darkroom - primarily for photo restoration. Shortly after I bought my first digital camera, I bought my computer-illiterate mother the same one. My father was sure she'd never learn to use it . . . he was wrong. So by that time the decline had happened. My recollection is that it was an exponential decline from when I bought my first to film being pretty much a dead industry.

And yes, Kodak executives missed it. Photography has always been an odd medium. There was such a fight for respect within the art world for photography (generally), and those who finally achieved artistic respect were reluctant to give the young upstart (digital) the respect that it took decades to earn. I expect Kodak executives missed the mark on where professionals were headed.

But there is a bit of a revival, I think (similar to the revival of vinyl records - for some of the same reasons). Unfortunately, the market is so small that the cost is prohibitive. My expenses for my darkroom class this year are around $300 (not counting things I would have to buy for a digital class, as well, not counting chemicals which are covered by the course fees, not counting the supplies I have from my first class 2 years ago, and bulk loading my own film). It has been 2 years since there were enough photography majors to offer the class I'm in currently. It's supposed to be offered every semester. And - Kodak is missing the mark, again. Ilford film is signficantly cheaper (and I like it better). Arista is about 60% the cost of Ilford. I haven't tried it yet - but at $50 for a 100' roll, I'm tempted. As my instructor said, she learned on Ilford and she's loyal. If they don't make it attractive to art students to use their products by pricing them at a point equivalent to the market (at least with a student discount), those beginning careers with film will become loyal to other brands.

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Oh, they trimmed down his chubby cheeks and belly. It's easily done with Photoshop's... brush Oct 6 #1
I could use a Filter and do it, as long as it wasn't big changes, and I'm not even that proficient in PS. mucholderthandirt Oct 7 #5
Yeah, they might have plans for presidential portarit after evoking the 25th on trump. brush Oct 7 #8
That's not how this was done at all Prairie Gates Oct 7 #7
How do you think it was done? I've done it like that for years... brush Oct 7 #9
Oh, ffs. Now they even lie about their own faces. Luz Oct 6 #2
At my old high school senior pictures were routinely "cleaned up". Igel Oct 6 #3
Same thing happened to me. Ms. Toad Oct 6 #4
There's a sampling tool in Photoshop that's used... brush Oct 7 #10
Mine was back before the day of photoshop. Ms. Toad Oct 7 #11
My career overlapped the airbrushing actual hard copy photos and the arival or... brush Oct 7 #12
Yup. Ms. Toad Oct 7 #13
Thanks for this. A question, did it come a time that you... brush Oct 7 #14
I was largely out of the photography business during that time frame. Ms. Toad Oct 7 #17
Sounds like you're in deep but know how and when to spend your money. brush Oct 7 #19
In deep - with gaps. Ms. Toad Oct 7 #20
Wow! You keep busy. brush Oct 7 #21
I've actually declared a minor in art history. Ms. Toad Oct 7 #22
When I worked as a new Engineer in a Land Developer office.... WarGamer Oct 7 #16
And in a few decades, Ms. Toad Oct 7 #18
They used filters to soften the images back in my day. A little smudge and everyone looked smoother. ;) mucholderthandirt Oct 7 #6
there are a million phone apps that do this... you think all the Insta pics are real?? WarGamer Oct 7 #15
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