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former9thward

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38. I don't care.

Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:53 PM

Oct 15

You seem to. We have had tariffs since George Washington. Clinton had them, Obama had them. I don't remember the complaints then. LBJ imposed a tariff on what became the EU for any pick-up truck made in those countries. Every president since then has re-imposed it. That tariff raises the price of American made pick-ups. Yet the country seems to survive.

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So Donald Trump wants to bring all of these manufacturing jobs back to the US. using tarriffs. One problem. [View all] OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 OP

Trumps understanding of tariffs is misguided. WarGamer Oct 15 #1

Exactly Wiz Imp Oct 15 #25

Trump lost manufacturing jobs. Johnny2X2X Oct 15 #2

I agree...but when unemployment is running at 5%, there aren't a lot of people OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #4

The OEMs overseas pay no tariffs Johnny2X2X Oct 15 #9

OEMs overseas don't pay the tariffs, the importers do. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #10

There are people. former9thward Oct 15 #15

No doubt, they leave their current jobs, making another job opening. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #18

Right, let's keep a huge underclass of scores of millions. former9thward Oct 15 #21

Not the point of my thread. How does Trump plan for 100% tarrifs square with a needed labor OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #26

You seem to equate tariffs with a "Trump agenda" former9thward Oct 15 #31

So where will those 30 million workers come from? Wiz Imp Oct 15 #32

I don't care. former9thward Oct 15 #38

You don't care that we would have a 30 million shortage of workers? Wiz Imp Oct 15 #39

No, they did NOT do it selectively. former9thward Oct 15 #40

They weren't automatically 200% or more on everything like Trump has largely proposed. Wiz Imp Oct 15 #43

Gotcha! Biden's at fault. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #33

I support the Biden tariffs. former9thward Oct 15 #37

As those lower paid workers move into higher paid manufacturing jobs - there is still a shortage of workers for those Wiz Imp Oct 15 #27

That is an argument free market CEOs use. former9thward Oct 15 #30

But those "lower paying jobs" get unfilled, because they all quit and got manufacturing jobs, OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #34

Right. At the lowest levels, there will be no workers. Wiz Imp Oct 15 #35

You can raise wages, but where are the available workers? OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #42

Right. If you have an economy that requires X number of workers but you only have Y Wiz Imp Oct 15 #45

Plus we could use a shitload of construction worker immigrants repairing/building a 2025 climate change reality. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #46

Will the companies be willing to pay workers $20+ and hour? mymomwasright Oct 15 #3

Exactly....either way, we will pay more...a lot more. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #7

He can't point to one concrete example where his tariffs Klarkashton Oct 15 #5

It is unions who want tariffs. former9thward Oct 15 #16

Targeted tariffs to protect against anti-dumping is OK with me. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #29

If he's going to back these manufacturing jobs, the question to ask him is.... LogDog75 Oct 15 #6

Or those Bibles? Klarkashton Oct 15 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Oct 15 #28

Might have to bring some over from Haitia. nt BWdem4life Oct 15 #11

And what about the... 2naSalit Oct 15 #13

LOL, he'll have to let a lot of immigrants into the country if we want to be 100% manufacturing capable. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #14

What about the Biden tariffs? former9thward Oct 15 #17

Already dialed in, so not an issue. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #19

The babies... 2naSalit Oct 15 #12

He's just making promises to stay out of prison. lindysalsagal Oct 15 #20

Immigrants edhopper Oct 15 #22

I'm willing to guess and say that he has literally zero clue how tariffs actually work. Initech Oct 15 #23