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Wiz Imp

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43. They weren't automatically 200% or more on everything like Trump has largely proposed.

Tue Oct 15, 2024, 09:45 PM

Oct 15

Washington's tariffs were 5% on most things but not everything. Rates generally increased as time went on but they generally varied and were not a flat rate on everything - that means it was selective. And while tariffs may have been imposed on most imports, there were always exceptions.

But all that is beside the point which you continue to ignore. The point again, nobody ever based their entire economic policy on tariffs like Trump wants to do. And I haven't even talked about how his plans would affect Exports. The entire point is Trump knows nothing about economics and the only plans he has proposed would be disastrous. I'm glad you have such a high opinion of yourself that you think you know more than me about economics. You DON'T.

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So Donald Trump wants to bring all of these manufacturing jobs back to the US. using tarriffs. One problem. [View all] OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 OP

Trumps understanding of tariffs is misguided. WarGamer Oct 15 #1

Exactly Wiz Imp Oct 15 #25

Trump lost manufacturing jobs. Johnny2X2X Oct 15 #2

I agree...but when unemployment is running at 5%, there aren't a lot of people OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #4

The OEMs overseas pay no tariffs Johnny2X2X Oct 15 #9

OEMs overseas don't pay the tariffs, the importers do. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #10

There are people. former9thward Oct 15 #15

No doubt, they leave their current jobs, making another job opening. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #18

Right, let's keep a huge underclass of scores of millions. former9thward Oct 15 #21

Not the point of my thread. How does Trump plan for 100% tarrifs square with a needed labor OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #26

You seem to equate tariffs with a "Trump agenda" former9thward Oct 15 #31

So where will those 30 million workers come from? Wiz Imp Oct 15 #32

I don't care. former9thward Oct 15 #38

You don't care that we would have a 30 million shortage of workers? Wiz Imp Oct 15 #39

No, they did NOT do it selectively. former9thward Oct 15 #40

They weren't automatically 200% or more on everything like Trump has largely proposed. Wiz Imp Oct 15 #43

Gotcha! Biden's at fault. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #33

I support the Biden tariffs. former9thward Oct 15 #37

As those lower paid workers move into higher paid manufacturing jobs - there is still a shortage of workers for those Wiz Imp Oct 15 #27

That is an argument free market CEOs use. former9thward Oct 15 #30

But those "lower paying jobs" get unfilled, because they all quit and got manufacturing jobs, OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #34

Right. At the lowest levels, there will be no workers. Wiz Imp Oct 15 #35

You can raise wages, but where are the available workers? OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #42

Right. If you have an economy that requires X number of workers but you only have Y Wiz Imp Oct 15 #45

Plus we could use a shitload of construction worker immigrants repairing/building a 2025 climate change reality. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #46

Will the companies be willing to pay workers $20+ and hour? mymomwasright Oct 15 #3

Exactly....either way, we will pay more...a lot more. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #7

He can't point to one concrete example where his tariffs Klarkashton Oct 15 #5

It is unions who want tariffs. former9thward Oct 15 #16

Targeted tariffs to protect against anti-dumping is OK with me. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #29

If he's going to back these manufacturing jobs, the question to ask him is.... LogDog75 Oct 15 #6

Or those Bibles? Klarkashton Oct 15 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Oct 15 #28

Might have to bring some over from Haitia. nt BWdem4life Oct 15 #11

And what about the... 2naSalit Oct 15 #13

LOL, he'll have to let a lot of immigrants into the country if we want to be 100% manufacturing capable. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #14

What about the Biden tariffs? former9thward Oct 15 #17

Already dialed in, so not an issue. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #19

The babies... 2naSalit Oct 15 #12

He's just making promises to stay out of prison. lindysalsagal Oct 15 #20

Immigrants edhopper Oct 15 #22

I'm willing to guess and say that he has literally zero clue how tariffs actually work. Initech Oct 15 #23