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jfz9580m

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55. Understood

Mon Nov 4, 2024, 01:49 AM

Nov 4

It is just that people are worried about what it might mean downstream.

These are typically not people known for their selfless concern for society (the Cheneys, Bushes etc). So progressives worry about getting pushed further out of the party mainstream to make more room for the Cheneys or say Mark Cubans ( Cuban was a Nikki Haley supporter and now wants Lina Khan fired).

I mean it is useful when anyone votes against Trump, but it is a given that at some point there will follow the whole “soul of the party” debate. Especially if it is more than merely “Look even the Cheneys can’t stand Trump”.

It is the same concern you see reflected here from the left part of the coalition:

https://newrepublic.com/article/187156/mark-cuban-harris-working-class

Trump has become so repellent even some fairly conservative Republicans are ditching him. What that means policy wise downstream worries the left side of the party.

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One thing I just don't get at all [View all] senseandsensibility Nov 3 OP

I don't think it would make a bit of difference. Ocelot II Nov 3 #1

If only for this much: the endorsement of the only living REPUBLICAN no_hypocrisy Nov 3 #2

There is no redemption possible for Cheney and Bush. They are war criminals.always in history irisblue Nov 3 #28

Mass murderers. Charge them. orthoclad Nov 3 #34

There's no furor Prairie Gates Nov 3 #3

Sounds like a ginned up - but EVERYONE hasn't endorsed her thing underpants Nov 3 #9

I'm with you on this. Jit423 Nov 3 #4

I think, since the Cheneys endorsed, there was a movement for Shrub to do the same. Gaytano70 Nov 3 #5

It has to do witih getting the votes of people who LIKE him. nt LAS14 Nov 3 #19

All 3 of those votes -- his wife and 2 daughters -- would not affect the outcome. wnylib Nov 3 #33

If there are only 3 people who still like George Bush then how come the election is close??????????????? LAS14 Nov 3 #37

Um...I think we were talking about George Bush. wnylib Nov 3 #40

There might be 5 US voters that this would impact positively. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 3 #6

It boggles my mind that we are trumpeting the endorsement of the Cheney's. The F-ing CHENEY'S!?! nt kelly1mm Nov 3 #7

You seem to be overlooking the purpose of endorsements. LAS14 Nov 3 #18

Do we as a party WANT the votes of people who like the Cheneys? Are we THAT big of a kelly1mm Nov 3 #25

Of COURSE we want the votes of anyone who will vote!!!!!!! We're trying to win the election!!!!!!!!! (Yelling). nt LAS14 Nov 3 #35

I am not willing to sell the soul of the Democratic Party just to win an election, which I think kelly1mm Nov 3 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Nov 3 #45

Of course we want votes from as many people as possible! ShazzieB Nov 3 #47

Liz Cheney is a war monger and her father is a war monger, war profiteer and war criminal. I kelly1mm Nov 3 #48

And you are absolutely entitled to your opinion. ShazzieB Nov 3 #49

There was something that I learned after 2016 Metaphorical Nov 4 #54

You make a compelling argument for maybe considering embracing Liz Cheney. However her father kelly1mm Nov 4 #56

I agree. Easterncedar Nov 3 #8

His silence is a non-endorsement Captain Zero Nov 3 #11

It's not like he's got any traction with today's Republicans. paleotn Nov 3 #10

Harlan Crow is on Board of his Presidential Library jojog Nov 3 #12

Another reason we should not seek his endorsement senseandsensibility Nov 3 #13

I agree Skittles Nov 3 #14

Maybe Faux pas Nov 3 #15

"Why would we want the endorsement of such a person?" LAS14 Nov 3 #16

Understood jfz9580m Nov 4 #55

Anyone who would be swayed by him is probably already voting for Kamala ecstatic Nov 3 #17

Maybe he's ReRe Nov 3 #20

Maybe he realizes his endorsement could do more harm than good SleeplessinSoCal Nov 3 #21

Oh I doubt that. BWdem4life Nov 3 #30

But people around himay know. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 3 #32

GeeDumbya and Cheney The Dick belong in The Hague for a war crimes trial. OMGWTF Nov 3 #22

Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn! (About George Bush) Aussie105 Nov 3 #23

It might give some "permission" to vote for Harris William Seger Nov 3 #24

Agreed... don't know why people want war criminals and neocons to endorse VP Harris WarGamer Nov 3 #26

Because Jughead Nov 3 #27

Totally agree... robleb Nov 3 #29

Wow, did he finally do it? Warpy Nov 3 #31

Nope Polybius Nov 4 #59

Ole dubya askyagerz Nov 3 #36

He's his mother's son. Remember old Babs? It's always us against them. MMBeilis Nov 3 #38

No. w is buddies with Michelle Obama. Yes, he's a war criminal. But, he did jump through some mucifer Nov 3 #41

No, yes. Buddies with Michelle? Yeah, well, Hitler liked dogs. MMBeilis Nov 4 #62

It's not about Bush as much as Leith Nov 3 #39

Until Trump came along... Grumpy Old Guy Nov 3 #42

You are giving short-shrift to the truly terrible Tweedy Nov 3 #44

Wasn't there a Time magazine cover asking that very question? Grumpy Old Guy Nov 4 #50

It was Rolling Stone Grumpy Old Guy Nov 4 #51

not close to as bad Skittles Nov 4 #63

Messieurs Buchanan and Pierce's Tweedy Nov 5 #64

I don't think we do. Tweedy Nov 3 #43

W is a waste. His daughter makes him look civil stollen Nov 4 #52

I agree, I think Mike Pence would be a better one JI7 Nov 4 #53

W. Bush SalamanderSleeps Nov 4 #57

Maybe his friends, the Clinton's and Obama's, can still convince him? Kaleva Nov 4 #58

I don't want any Republican endorsements, at all. Not one. mucholderthandirt Nov 4 #60

Maybe we should just frame it as "LATEST NEWS: GEORGE W. BUSH DOES NOT ENDORSE TRUMP" SupportSanity Nov 4 #61