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In reply to the discussion: My real question is is Trump bluffing or does he really intend to be an authoritarian [View all]wnylib
(24,923 posts)Were you in the US between 2017 and 2021? Besides detention cages at the border, there were detention camps in several states where people were sent after roundups in cities and at businesses where immigrants were working. Some of them were here legally and got picked up in the nets of the roundups. They had to find lawyers to fight back and get released.
Conditions at the camps were abusive and unsanitary.
With less technology in the mid 20th century, Nazis managed to round up and kill several million. The largest number were Jews at 6 million, but there were also Roma (gypsies), Poles after the Polish invasion, political dissidents in Germany, people with physical and mental disabilities, communists, Jehovah's Witnesses, people in conquered countries who refused to cooperate, resistance and underground people. In addition, they had POW camps for captured Allied soldiers. My uncle spent two years in a POW camp as a captured US soldier.
Also, fascism is more than concentration camps. Fascism is authoritarianism. Dictatorship. Loss of personal and civic freedoms. It is thug rule. It is harassment, beatings, and killings of any designated "other" with impunity.
Concentration camps, mass killings, roundups of "undesireables" do not happen all at once under fascist rule. They happen in increments. Arrests and detention camps begin with powerless people whose arrests do not arouse much public objection. They move on to targeted ethnic groups who are enemies according to propaganda that prepares the public to accept it.
In Nazi Germany, it was Jews who were all tagged with the label of traitors responsible for the loss of WWI. In the US, Trump is targeting "illegal" immigrants according to race, like Latinos and legal Haitians. The propaganda labels them as criminals and low lifes who rape, murder, eat people's pets, take people's jobs. Get the general public believing that and they don't care if the people are rounded up. That paves the way for removing even people who are here with legal documentation just because they are "the other." Next, revoke the citizenship of naturalized citizens. As power consolidates, the enemies lists expand.
Fascism promotes toxic masculinity. It promotes superiority of some people over others.