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jmowreader

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54. I think there are three paths here.

Mon Nov 11, 2024, 01:01 AM

Nov 11

Path 1 is that Trump is just bullshitting. This is always possible, and he's done it before.

Path 2 is he really tries doing the things he's announced he will do, and fails miserably. A very large amount of what he plans to do revolve around tax cuts and tariffs. If he tries getting either one of two things will happen: Congress will tell him to go to hell, or they'll pass and send the economy to hell.

Path 3 is what I think will really happen: Trump will threaten to do (some bad thing) repeatedly until the nation has totally stressed itself out, and then he'll offer to scale it back to (some not-as-bad thing on the same general order as the bad thing) so long as it can get enacted.

Either way things will look really bleak. We already know Elon Musk wants to institute austerity, which is kinda strange because it will cut down sales in his car and rocket companies.

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My real question is is Trump bluffing or does he really intend to be an authoritarian [View all] geekboy009 Nov 10 OP

It's complicated. TwilightZone Nov 10 #1

Yeah, the thing about Trump is he is only about Trump. He doesn't really have a political ideology. It's guys like Quixote1818 Nov 10 #40

He already killed half a million americans during COVID and you are wondering what he is capable of? Blues Heron Nov 10 #2

Much of his agenda failed in the first term. TwilightZone Nov 10 #6

Those checks on his desires aren't there anymore misanthrope Nov 10 #10

*This* ananda Nov 10 #16

His history of rounding up immigrants is well established. wnylib Nov 10 #26

He didn't round up 12 million of them. TwilightZone Nov 10 #45

I have also heard that the logistics make it impossible. wnylib Nov 11 #56

Once i see that he has his minions putting people on trains, thats when i will believe it geekboy009 Nov 10 #9

If the "redline" is set there then people are going to be loaded onto trains already. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #14

Germans said the same thing, coincidentally, not a single German citizen saw a train.... Runningdawg Nov 10 #23

What are you talking about? Tens of thoushands saw trains. brush Nov 10 #38

WOW way to miss the point. Runningdawg Nov 11 #58

What point, that you don't know how to write clearly, or write clever sarcasm? brush Nov 11 #62

He sure had camps for immigrants last time get the red out Nov 10 #3

He intends to be a benevolent mob boss. haele Nov 10 #4

He f'n thinks authoritarian dweller Nov 10 #5

Congratulations on your 49th post orangecrush Nov 10 #7

Does it matter? ChicagoRonin Nov 10 #8

A real answer to any of the real questions you ask begins with knowing what fascism is and isn't. taxi Nov 10 #11

believe it quakerboy Nov 10 #12

He won't be able to do it all... Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #13

The attempts should be more than sufficient to have a severe problem. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #18

At the end of the day, he's pretty lazy Blue Owl Nov 10 #15

This us true and goes a long way. The fear is he let his loyalists "Go wild" TheKentuckian Nov 10 #20

I was hoping maybe some Never-Trump House Republicans would caucus with us. Aristus Nov 10 #17

There are very few (any?) Mad_Machine76 Nov 10 #29

"Some people say he's a fascist...he's not putting us on trains to death camps..." J_William_Ryan Nov 10 #19

A free press is in the Bill of Rights, Qutzupalotl Nov 10 #21

Several generals say he's a fascist tenderfoot Nov 10 #22

Thank You... That's right! Those Closest to the Fucker say Cha Nov 11 #53

Trump is a puppet. The religious cult controlling the strings are capable of far more than you realize. Runningdawg Nov 10 #24

trump is a Fucking Fascist Asshole.. Anyone who's been Cha Nov 10 #25

I feel sorry for Florida Diraven Nov 10 #27

He will do whatever Putin wants him to do Ocelot II Nov 10 #28

The real question is: intrepidity Nov 11 #51

He has immunity to do whatever he wants witn impunity. brush Nov 10 #30

He will be a rubber stamp for what the Project 2025 authoritarians want done, until they take him down and put Vance in Attilatheblond Nov 10 #31

DING DING DING Leghorn21 Nov 10 #35

Trump doesn't care about policy. Under The Radar Nov 10 #32

even if he is bluffing DonCoquixote Nov 10 #33

Authoritarian doesn't mean cattle cars. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 10 #34

He thinks he's smarter than everybody else. He regards people who disagree with him as nasty. struggle4progress Nov 10 #36

He and Putin are ruthless psychopaths. Irish_Dem Nov 10 #37

Let's put it this way: the folks that moonscape Nov 10 #39

Ask russians if putin was bluffing, or germans if hitler was bluffing. nt yaesu Nov 10 #41

To the extent he can, he will. dchill Nov 10 #42

He's going to pardon his Brown Shirts after he becomes President so I'd say yes. jalan48 Nov 10 #43

I'm kind of split on whether TSF himself is a fascist, but many of the people in his inner circle absolutely are 0rganism Nov 10 #44

They'll do what they normally do oldmanlynn Nov 10 #46

Does it matter if the population are a doormat kansasobama Nov 10 #47

Look up the definition of a fascist sometime. Klarkashton Nov 10 #48

The definition of a F(f)ascist? Really? Abolishinist Nov 11 #52

He tried to take the office by force. By force. Easterncedar Nov 11 #49

Take him at his word GoreWon2000 Nov 11 #50

I think there are three paths here. jmowreader Nov 11 #54

I'll take bastard Kevin Roberts at his word. nt The Unmitigated Gall Nov 11 #55

My guess is that he'll pass laws that will make it RubyRose Nov 11 #57

Orange Bastard is a stupid, lay motherfucking bum. Minions are highly fucking motivated to inflict fucking pain on you. SoFlaBro Nov 11 #59

He intends to, and this time he has organized backers who have a plan. Project 2025 is online & free... Hekate Nov 11 #60

Have you seen his cabinet picks so far? nolabear Nov 11 #61