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yardwork

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11. I don't listen to arguments that claim our candidates were "anointed."

Reply to pat_k (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2024, 04:52 PM

Nov 2024

That's bullshit, plain and simple. Biden was chosen as our nominee in a fair primary, with Harris as his running mate. Biden did a great job leading our country out of Trump's disastrous term and COVID.

Biden is the most pro-union president we've ever had. He walked picket lines. Did Harris turn down meetings with union leaders? How did she fail to listen? Show me the evidence.

College loan forgiveness is helping people who have paid predatory loans for decades. Nobody got anything for free. The loan forgiveness helped begin to right a very bad wrong. If people wanted to learn about it they could - but all I hear is low-information griping.

I disagree with all your points.

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I'm sick of post-mortems too, but... [View all] pat_k Nov 2024 OP

I'm tired of "experts " who predicted Harris would win, now telling me why she lost. surfered Nov 2024 #1

Hardly anyone who was being objective definitively predicted that she would win. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #6

My brother thought she would lose at the start Meowmee Nov 2024 #10

My mom told me she would lose the day it was clear that she would be the nominee. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #12

Yes agree on all of that Meowmee Nov 2024 #13

How it was not seen that student loan forgiveness programs were further alienating working kelly1mm Nov 2024 #2

I noticed that when the issue was raised it was dismissed or rationalized. pat_k Nov 2024 #5

Biden won voters who had a union member in the household 57/40. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #3

As I said, I don't want to argue, but holding Union support has been a struggle since NAFTA. pat_k Nov 2024 #7

For me, weather by hook or by crook the repukes got more votes plain and simple. nt mitch96 Nov 2024 #4

Both the 2016 and 2020 primaries were "real contests" emulatorloo Nov 2024 #8

My view of 2016 is probably a minority view... pat_k Nov 2024 #16

Biden broke no promise. He never said he was only going to be a one term president. emulatorloo Nov 2024 #18

Being a "transitional" president and "bridge" . . . pat_k Nov 2024 #20

Nothing you've posted is factual. Just 'assumptions' and 'conclusions' that can not be supported w fact. emulatorloo Nov 2024 #22

Obviously. pat_k Nov 2024 #23

2016 Primary: Sanders, Clinton, O'Malley, Chaffee, Webb, Lessing emulatorloo Nov 2024 #19

The party coalesced around her as presumed nominee in early 2014 pat_k Nov 2024 #21

Dems had only 1/10 the time to campaign compared to IT. CoopersDad Nov 2024 #9

Kamala did a spectacular job. pat_k Nov 2024 #15

I don't listen to arguments that claim our candidates were "anointed." yardwork Nov 2024 #11

No one ran against Biden because he was the incumbent. pat_k Nov 2024 #14

There were many kinds of stupidity in this election mvd Nov 2024 #17