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40. Links and Summary for Election Suspicions
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 12:58 PM
Nov 13

Summary of evidence and concerns:
Trump is a Russian asset working for Putin (see book American Kompromat by journalist Craig Unger or Active Measures documentary with Hillary Clinton(1), sources below). Elon and Trump are working together (2). They both have substantial ties to Epstein (3) (4) (5) (6). Trump stole election software in 2020 (7). Similarly, Elon Musk has been in contact with Russia for the last 2 years (8). This includes during the Ukraine War when Russia began using Starlink (9) while it was claimed they got them third party and not from Musk himself; however now appears imo to show Elon is a doublecrosser.


Starlink, Elon's satellite company, was installed in some voting machines across the country (10) and may have interfered with vote tabulation. Voting machines were found to be connected to the internet (11). An independent report on voting machines concluded that tabulation tampering was possible with current voting machines, so hand counts are vital (12). In September, Politico had an investigation finding Russian malware on a state voter registration database (13). Also, there were malicious fake texts from fake DNC organizations, connected to Elon who donated to them, that were fishing voter info (14).

Elon had results of election on an app 4 hours before official counts had it (15), per Joe Rogan podcast in a discussion to Theo Von. Earlier this year, Tana Monogeau, released info that she'd been offered millions of dollars to endorse the Trump campaign and that she knew others had taken the deal (16).

They will release more info admitting their fraud because they are a Russian asset trying to start a civil war here (speculation). They want us to be confused about sources and who to trust and what's real, they want to release the truth to anger us and lies to anger us. Trump has refused to write an ethics statement for transition of power saying he will transition peacefully (17). JD Vance has also told the EU that unless they allow X unfettered access to the EU (to spread propaganda), they will withdraw the US from NATO (18) - which will prompt wars or takeover either way and weakens Germany, who is entering an election since their government couldn't agree on Ukraine budget. A Russian space chief said Elon Musk’s plan to bomb Mars is a cover to put nuclear weapons in space (19).

Also speculation, are reports of widespread ballot rejection, especially for signatures. There are articles claiming already that it is because GenZ does not know cursive (20) - except the signature simply must match your driver's license. It's not a cursive writing test. Avocado toast but with gen z voting fraud. We do not yet have the ballot rejection rates but typically they are around 1% to 1.5% (21).

Crypto is how right wing conservatism got funded here. It's why it took off- it was basically UBI for those men, funded by foreign intelligence for this purpose along with other uses for crypto like dark money, drugs, trafficking, etc (22)(23). The least informed people we knew were investing in crypto when it was starting, mining bitcoins. They couldn't tell you what a stock or tariff is, yet they were making bank in crypto trading. Crypto trading, especially memecoins, appears to be an obvious scam to most because it's the stock market without ownership. So why were these 4chan pedophiles and nazis doing so well? Because it was just meant to give them money the whole time. And crypto is great for transferring money internationally from shady organizations to shady people (24). Far right catchphrases and meme campaigns dispersed online including X, give out the key words/catchphrases for the new coin that isn't a scam and will disperse money. People who are deep in these groups' internet algorithms get these keywords first and normal outsiders will either not notice or will stay away. No normal person wants a coin that references Hitler if they are just scrolling memecoins.

Once the government has been taken over, they can force their memecoin as the national currency and then rug pull, which is also what Musk is likely going to do to Tesla at the same time. The entire point is to bankrupt America for Putin and his cartoon villain cohorts. Musk is already saying he wants to withdraw from US currency due to national debt (Trump added most of the national debt) (25).

If you're in Germany, take note. They are coming for you next, your election is soon.

News Links

(1)

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(2) https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elon-musk-weighing-trump-staffing-decisions-sources/story?id=115730434

(3) https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/03/trump-infiltrate-voting-machines-georgia-2020.html

(4) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html

(5) https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epsteins-ex-girlfriend-dated-kimbal-musk-brother-of-tesla-founder-elon-musk-2020-1

(6) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fire-and-fury-the-podcast/id1750757108

(7) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/trump-jeffrey-epstein-tapes

(8) https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-to-know-about-elon-musks-reported-phone-calls-with-putin-and-why-it-matters

(9) https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-using-thousands-spacex-starlink-terminals-ukraine-wsj-says-2024-02-15/

(10) https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/1gnxqmw/elon_musks_company_starlink_praised_by_tulare/

(11) www.nbcnews.com/news/ncna1112436

(12) https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/inside-georgias-effort-to-secure-voting-machines-as-experts-raise-concerns

(13) https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/01/us-election-software-national-security-threats-00176615

(14) https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/10/pro-trump-dark-money-network-tied-to-elon-musk-behind-fake-pro-harris-campaign-scheme/

(15) https://grabien.com/story.php?id=499986

(16) https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/tana-mongeau-paid-political-endorsement

(17) https://apnews.com/article/trump-transition-planning-ca3a6be50d147b04b6498184e5599b1e

(18) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-elon-musk-x-twitter-donald-trump-b2614525.html

(19) https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/499968-russian-space-chief-elon-musks-plan-to-bomb-mars-is-a-cover-to-put/

(20) https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-voters-struggle-signatures-cast-mail-ballot-problems-2024-11

(21) https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_rejected_ballots

(22) https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/far-right-extremists-raise-millions-cryptocurrency-bitcoin/

(23) https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/opinion/crypto-cryptocurrency-money-conspiracy.html

(24) https://apnews.com/article/cryptocurrency-coronavirus-pandemic-technology-business-europe-f7f754fc2c68b0eb0d712239323f26c3

(25) https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/11/10/its-unsustainable-tesla-ceo-elon-musk-issues-us-serious-bankruptcy-warning-amid-huge-bitcoin-and-dogecoin-price-surge/

Personal Testimony from the dickbags themselves:

youtube.com/live/HBPNfAUPz08?si=PZQa_D_wbN9VoA6y

In the first minute:

"Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico."

"If you can watch your vote counter, if we can bring God down from heaven (he's referencing Starlink), we can win this, win California, win a lot of states."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/if-trump-loses-im-fcked-elon-musk-in-interview-with-tucker-carlson/articleshow/114024254.cms

“If [Trump] loses, I’m f*cked… How long do you think my prison sentence is going to be?”

Why does Elon think he would go to prison though? For what crime?


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Elon: "We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it."

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Trump:"Our little secret is having a big impact"

If Trump was so sure the election was rigged and they were going to turnover every state including California, then why hasn't he asked for a recount in all the states with representatives that didn't get elected that he thought would be? Shouldn't he be suing for recounts? He did it last time. Why doesn't he want an investigation this time?

#AssetForfeitureTrumpMusk

If they get locked into years of asset forfeiture from layers and layers of state and municipal claims, we may be able to stop them

Bonus Link:
https://medium.com/@da82ir1jaf/elon-musk-king-of-the-dark-enlightenment-9270332c67af
Okay, but in that same light, please don't use the "BlueAnon" label around here. Tommy Carcetti Nov 13 #1
BlueAnon is a good name for election deniers Abnredleg Nov 13 #2
Comparing legitimate questions about the election with QAnon gab13by13 Nov 13 #5
If it had been posed as a legitimate question I might agree HelpImSurrounded Nov 13 #7
Then just call it a conspiracy theory. nt Tommy Carcetti Nov 13 #11
It's a legitimate question. EndlessWire Nov 13 #41
What questions do you have? DiamondShark Nov 14 #45
seriously? Americans are that easily led? travelingthrulife Sunday #53
Yes, Americans are that easily led. The election results speak for themselves. DiamondShark Sunday #56
You can just call it a baseless conspiracy theory and leave it at that. Tommy Carcetti Nov 13 #10
see post 45. DiamondShark Nov 15 #47
No, it's not. nt Tommy Carcetti Nov 13 #14
I've only ever seen "BlueAnon" used by the right as a pejorative, usually to deflect from QAnon chia Nov 13 #3
He only has 502 posts orangecrush Nov 13 #20
Yep and nonsense like this doesn't encourage me to engage at a higher rate. I can get this by walking out my front door HelpImSurrounded Nov 13 #26
Sometimes taking a walk outside is a good form of exercise. DiamondShark Nov 15 #48
Don't worry about micromanaging here. Hope22 Nov 13 #4
Or by civilians The Grand Illuminist Nov 13 #42
Certainly civilians. 👍 Hope22 Nov 13 #44
This bs will come in handy... Bobstandard Nov 13 #6
Some of them are already turning on each other, so I'm just waiting for the 'icing on the cake', to see them get into SWBTATTReg Sunday #51
Surrender in advance? Bobstandard Sunday #57
Until we can see the "proprietary" source code this will never go away. Basso8vb Nov 13 #8
As much as I'd love to relitigate 2004 Ohio... HelpImSurrounded Nov 13 #23
We have NO IDEA what the operating system is doing with the data. Basso8vb Nov 13 #37
One way to get the information you request... DiamondShark Nov 15 #49
As a counterpoint... Think. Again. Nov 13 #9
Nah obamanut2012 Nov 13 #12
BUT you can't prove that Progressive dog Nov 13 #13
Why can't we talk about it? Texasgal Nov 13 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Nov 13 #21
BY all means keep it up HelpImSurrounded Nov 13 #24
"You'll Sound Just Like Them" SoCalDavidS Nov 13 #35
It's gaslighting tenderfoot Nov 13 #30
How dare people interrupt my goofy conspiracy theories with reality! lol tritsofme Nov 13 #33
People can think what they want tenderfoot Nov 13 #36
If you take away misinformation and conspiracy theories, there's nothing left for the election deniers to talk about. tritsofme Nov 13 #16
100% NO... DU started as a response to a questionable JCMach1 Nov 13 #17
IF there were EVIDENCE TO WEIGH... then maybe. But there isn't any. HelpImSurrounded Nov 13 #25
We don't know that. It's way too soon. I know what I think happened JCMach1 Nov 13 #29
It is not unreasonable to be suspicious about a CONVICTED FELON's methods and intent Blue Owl Nov 13 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Nov 13 #22
Sure, if your suspicions are reasonable HelpImSurrounded Nov 13 #28
Congratulations on 502 posts. orangecrush Nov 13 #19
Not everyone needs to talk and talk and talk to be valid.... AkFemDem Sunday #54
PLEASE STOP using all caps and telling people what to think and feel. Irish_Dem Nov 13 #27
What they are doing is a chilling effect. Blue Full Moon Nov 13 #31
Absolutely! It's not helpful to our cause. We must move right away if we want to at least take back the hse in '28 PortTack Nov 13 #32
DU has a long, long history of questioning and mulling over election integrity JCMach1 Nov 13 #34
It Sure Did Help THEIR Cause SoCalDavidS Nov 13 #38
If I wanted people to tell me BlueKota Nov 13 #39
Links and Summary for Election Suspicions Heck Nov 13 #40
I seen them lights moving all in a row in the night sky, stealing votes as they go Bonx Nov 13 #43
You don't need to tell people what to do on a message board Dem4life1234 Nov 14 #46
FACT FOCUS: Election officials knock down Starlink vote rigging conspiracy theories LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #50
You're arguing with the democratic version of Q AkFemDem Sunday #52
WHY? Anger drives turnout krawhitham Sunday #55
we have to listen to MAGAts whining about election results for four fucking years Skittles Sunday #58
I think 5-10 years ahead or more HelpImSurrounded Monday #59
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