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MadameButterfly

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10. The idea that Biden dropping out was a conspiracy is really

Reply to lees1975 (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 01:26 PM

Nov 13

out of line. Wherever you are on the issue, he dropped out or was pushed out because enough Democrats genuinely believed he couldn't win. Did you see the polls before he dropped out of the race? Minnesota, had become a swing state, and many others. The swings states had turned red. Kamala gave us a shot.

Have you seen Biden speak lately? The decline has continued.
Old age is a bear, and no fair. I just watched my Dad decline faster than I thought possible.

Biden, and only Biden decided that it had to be Kamala. I think she was brilliant, I don't think she was the problem. But if you think she was, look to Biden. Pelosi and others wanted a mini-primary.

Am I comfortable that the election was fair and square? No. But rolling Biden into it makes your otherwise understandable concerns less credible

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Do I sound too much like a conspiracy theorist? Or am I resonating with some people? [View all] lees1975 Nov 13 OP

I'm right where you are. I'm watching Biden welcoming Trump to the W.H. Greybnk48 Nov 13 #1

Democracy In America Is Finished SoCalDavidS Nov 13 #2

BRAVO, SoCalDavid................ DENVERPOPS Nov 13 #32

There are problems with that quotation Cirsium Nov 13 #44

Thx DENVERPOPS Nov 13 #45

No problem Cirsium Nov 13 #46

I know these things as facts DENVERPOPS Nov 13 #49

We are all learning Cirsium Nov 13 #51

The only thing DENVERPOPS Nov 13 #50

Very good Cirsium Nov 13 #53

Thx DENVERPOPS Nov 13 #59

Is this the Tocqueville quote you meant? lees1975 Nov 13 #63

No Cirsium Nov 13 #64

But, in a way, he warned us that despotism was coming at some point. lees1975 Nov 13 #70

Yah cilla4progress Nov 13 #56

You're not alone dickthegrouch Nov 13 #3

I can't even say out loud what I'm thinking Clouds Passing Nov 13 #4

I share a lot of your feelings. BlueKota Nov 13 #5

You beat me to posting. I was going to ask, "Was this an existential election or was that hyperbole?" UniqueUserName Nov 13 #6

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And Merrick Garland? Is he showing up every day at the Justice Department, still? lees1975 Nov 13 #13

I think you're correct. Sometimes you have to bend the rules such as they are. harumph Nov 13 #40

I think it was at least partially hyperbole EdmondDantes_ Nov 13 #11

new poster promoting the notion that a Trump presidency won't be so bad bigtree Nov 13 #21

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Did you forget to change accounts? W_HAMILTON Nov 13 #36

It was a concept of an election. BattleRow Nov 13 #19

Think about that. John Shaft Nov 13 #24

They don't want the american people finding out what all of them have been up to. onecaliberal Nov 13 #29

They are preparing to focus on policies. Frasier Balzov Nov 13 #30

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This is correct Zeitghost Nov 13 #28

I'm right there with you and so is everyone that I know. 1WorldHope Nov 13 #9

The idea that Biden dropping out was a conspiracy is really MadameButterfly Nov 13 #10

I don't think so. lees1975 Nov 13 #12

I have a number... 2naSalit Nov 13 #14

Right there with you orangecrush Nov 13 #15

Rolling Stone magazine, not a right-leaning publication SCantiGOP Nov 13 #16

Now I am wondering if they r just getting us ready for China. Saudi overlords Blue Full Moon Nov 13 #17

it's just one smack at the Democratic party after the other in this screed bigtree Nov 13 #18

You really missed the point. lees1975 Nov 13 #43

not wading through party bashing to try and find the point bigtree Nov 13 #48

Show me someone with guts, in the face of this disaster, and I'll stop saying it. lees1975 Nov 13 #54

it's not you bigtree Nov 13 #60

Well, damn, how perceptive of you. lees1975 Nov 13 #67

you should ask questions to the people that represent you. stillcool Nov 13 #55

I live in Illinois. No need for a recount here. lees1975 Nov 13 #68

Somewhat off topic,but where in the world is JD Vance? BattleRow Nov 13 #20

probably off training soldiers to shoot at us... Ysabel Nov 13 #23

Peter Thiel bought him one of those fancy massage chairs as a congratulatory gift. ECL213 Nov 13 #26

I don't recall hearing a lot from any Vice Presidential-elect in the first weeks after an election. onenote Nov 13 #39

I feel the same way... Ysabel Nov 13 #22

I think getting people to believe they didn't steal it.... ananda Nov 13 #27

I agree. Mr.Bee Nov 13 #31

Well said. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. harumph Nov 13 #41

Right there with you. (nt) Richard D Nov 13 #33

I can't blame any of us for feeling this way Erda Nov 13 #34

Thank you! crud Nov 13 #61

Too many are cowards in the face of Frankenstein bullies. GreenWave Nov 13 #35

His biggest stress was what they were doing to his son Hunter Bev54 Nov 13 #37

Biden was "pushed out" because he couldn't win. onenote Nov 13 #38

Donors always conspire to influence candidates. Its part of the transactional nature of American politics. jaxexpat Nov 13 #42

During the 2000 election Biden "indicated" he would only run for one term. Intractable Nov 13 #47

All I will say on that question... FBaggins Nov 13 #52

It does seem as if a deal has been made... polichick Nov 13 #57

After more thought, I think we lost people to the couch ecstatic Nov 13 #58

Yeah, you sound like a conspiracy theorist who thinks life happens like a bad 70s TV movie thebigidea Nov 13 #62

Agree SCantiGOP Nov 13 #65

Yep, it was simple but not enough people cared enough to vote for Harris. Fish700 Nov 13 #69

I just can't wrap my head around how a RAPIST & CONVICTED FELON is going to be in the Oval Office Blue Owl Nov 13 #66

Trump Will Fix the Election Mr.Bee Thursday #71

I only read your subject line, but both of those things can be true at the same time. Iggo Thursday #72