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onenote

(44,805 posts) Sat Nov 16, 2024, 09:33 AM Nov 16

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Go ahead and attack me, but the defeatism on this site is out of control [View all]

Some of us are old enough to remember what it felt like wake up the day after election day realizing we had lost by over 17 million votes and more than 500 electoral votes. Happened twice in my lifetime. I'm not downplaying how awful Trump is. He is the worst president in our history. But there are more of us now than there were back when we were getting creamed by Reagan and Nixon. I'm not prepared to surrender, but it sure seems like a lot DUers have already decided we're doomed and that nothing can save us.

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Go ahead and attack me, but the defeatism on this site is out of control [View all] onenote Nov 16 OP

Thank you for this. Things look pretty bleak right now, but Ocelot II Nov 16 #1

I was just bdamomma Nov 16 #12

Iow,don't be a volunteer victim. BattleRow Nov 16 #33

Trump enters office with more power than Hitler when he became Chancellor uponit7771 Nov 16 #78

I have to agree. Too much doom/gloom and flee the Polly Hennessey Nov 16 #2

Not everyone has what it takes to fight Maga and never give up Kaleva Nov 16 #3

I'm just happy now my phone isn't blown up every morning....... AZ8theist Nov 16 #17

Agree! Kaleva Nov 16 #56

I''ve never received so many texts and emails asking for money as I did from the Harris-Walz campaign.. sop Nov 16 #57

I certainly don't intend to become a quisling, but I am depressed. I don't think there's anything I personally can do Walleye Nov 16 #4

I'm hoping they leave me alone XanaDUer2 Nov 16 #10

I hear ya Walleye Nov 16 #11

I'm right there with you. Also and old woman who's seen a lot. My biggest fear is the Supreme Court is now MAGA too so ratchiweenie Nov 16 #26

I don't have any grandchildren, but I do have a one year-old grand niece I worry about Walleye Nov 16 #39

At 86 years old, I am also an old woman BarbD Nov 16 #44

Yes! She warns against how dictators use hate and fear to manipulate people. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #72

Same for me DeeDeeNY Nov 16 #48

SS, Medicare, and Medicaid* electric_blue68 Nov 17 #92

I've quit reading most of the posts nt GenThePerservering Nov 16 #5

I agree. But I also understand the mood of doom. 33taw Nov 16 #6

Me, I'm a Natural worrrier/ anxietier thinkingagain Nov 16 #9

Reagan reelection was when I told myself just voting isn't enough. Lick our wounds pitter-patter, let's get at 'er IA8IT Nov 16 #7

Age gives perspective, Ferryboat Nov 16 #8

I just read your headline but maybe you should let other people discuss how they feel about Autumn Nov 16 #13

Discuss away. Nobody is stopping you. Ocelot II Nov 16 #14

Opps sorry, I forgot to add without complaining about it. Autumn Nov 16 #22

I agree that discussing how we feel is helpful Erda Nov 16 #30

Thank you for this. If Uruguay can do it surely we can too, hopefully now rather than later. Trust_Reality Nov 16 #62

The seething white hot hate Willard123 Nov 16 #15

I have seething white hot hate radical noodle Nov 16 #90

Seems to me, seething white hot hate B.See Nov 17 #94

It's how some of us cope with awful situations wryter2000 Nov 16 #16

We are in shock and rage and in deep fear and there is no one doing anything about it. lark Nov 16 #18

These things didn't happen Willard123 Nov 16 #25

So you think this time will be like last? lark Nov 16 #29

I am suspicious of noobs telling me all is well JoseBalow Nov 16 #84

But roe v Wade actually was overturned because of Trumps picks- your saying that didn't happen? Blues Heron Nov 16 #38

DU seems to have entered the same era of casual, brutal sexism as the rest of the country. Scrivener7 Nov 16 #86

In the most recent election 7 states voted to protect or expand reproductive rights Shrek Nov 17 #98

To me you are coming off as someone so distant from the fire TheKentuckian Nov 16 #40

Let me guess: well-off white guy? Scrivener7 Nov 16 #85

My father was murdered Meowmee Nov 17 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author Native Nov 17 #100

I seriously didn't just read this here on DU. WTF? Native Nov 17 #101

Suggestions? I've heard the word fight used a lot but all I've seen is people throwing money at candidate coffers and... jaxexpat Nov 16 #19

Go ahead and attack me, but the defeatism on this site is out of control MLWR Nov 16 #20

Run campaign rallies for all 4 yrs. Blue Full Moon Nov 16 #21

Agree! kenziemom06 Nov 16 #61

Yeah, lots of blaming and finger pointing, like post 2016. It's what Dems do best apparently. jalan48 Nov 16 #23

Those things are normal; Willard123 Nov 16 #31

Not when they go on for years. You're new to DU, you'll see. jalan48 Nov 16 #34

A whole lot of us are seniors here, and have little to lose ... usonian Nov 16 #24

PREACH, onenote, PREACH !! Say it a little louder for the foks in the overflow...EOM The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 16 #27

Ok, first off in my opinion i don't think ANYBODY here today has witnessed anything close to what just happen in America bluestarone Nov 16 #28

There is something special about The Madcap Nov 16 #32

The Supreme Court is a right wing nut job controlled bronxiteforever Nov 16 #35

I am sorry edhopper Nov 16 #36

Do you support a recount? Emile Nov 16 #37

Where there is actual evidence warranting a recount, yes. onenote Nov 16 #54

if this is an issue for you NJCher Nov 16 #66

Who am I supposed to call? onenote Nov 16 #67

call the state elections office NJCher Nov 16 #68

Call the state election office and say.... onenote Nov 16 #69

oh the irony NJCher Nov 16 #70

Let me know when Mark Elias weighs in on the "bullet ballot" claim. onenote Nov 16 #82

howdi. AllaN01Bear Nov 16 #41

"...creamed by Reagan and Nixon..." J_William_Ryan Nov 16 #42

Democrats may have controlled the House in the Reagan years, but a conservative coalition tritsofme Nov 16 #73

Oh, okay then Ponietz Nov 16 #43

I think it's different this time... Blasphemer Nov 16 #45

I'm sick of the "tHeRe wOnT eVeN bE aN eLeCtIon" shit. BannonsLiver Nov 16 #46

BINGO! WarGamer Nov 16 #63

You're right, last time was fantastic with this guy it'll be even better this time uponit7771 Nov 16 #79

I wish I could rec this a billion times n/t Shrek Nov 17 #97

Then go somewhere else. milestogo Nov 16 #47

No thank you. onenote Nov 16 #55

I agree. Buck up, people! bikes and bunnies Nov 16 #49

No complaint from me, friend. K&R ck4829 Nov 16 #50

You arre right Progressive dog Nov 16 #51

We didn't know about the ticking climate time bomb. Certainly not the way we GPV Nov 16 #52

I'm not going to surrender, but what keeps me up at night Blue_Tires Nov 16 #53

I'm old but thinking,,,, Dan Nov 16 #58

I'm old also, and I too have been thinking. Trust_Reality Nov 16 #65

Well, yes and no . . . AverageOldGuy Nov 16 #59

Wow! You live in a nasty area. And it is the USA. Just Wow. Trust_Reality Nov 16 #64

Wow...so sorry you and others in similar areas are experiencing this harassment! electric_blue68 Nov 17 #91

You got it. Stay safe out there. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 17 #99

Completely agree. Elessar Zappa Nov 16 #60

Yes! We must always be strong! synni Nov 16 #71

Manchin-Golden in '28? DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 16 #74

Sounds like a bunch of Republican talking points. Are people not concerned about Trumps nominees??!! kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #75

Some prefer to mock muslims who voted for Trump, no thought of bringing them back. GreenWave Nov 16 #76

There is little we can do for almost 2 years Charmin One Nov 16 #89

Sounds about white John Shaft Nov 17 #96

Trump enter's office with more power than Hitler did when he became Chancellor, let's be prepared versus scared uponit7771 Nov 16 #77

Honest question: why does this feel so much worse? Schlocko Nov 16 #80

I agree . FarPoint Nov 16 #81

I'm not feeling Doom. I'm Pissed off. Ojerly Nov 16 #83

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 16 #87

Whoa Sunshine!!! Time to take a break GP6971 Nov 16 #88

The defeatism doesn't bother nearly as much as the rapid spread of misinformation Sympthsical Nov 17 #93

My personal form of resistance GreenEyedLefty Nov 17 #102