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In reply to the discussion: Go ahead and attack me, but the defeatism on this site is out of control [View all]Dan
(4,157 posts)First from a IT perspective - as someone mentions, the probability of some 60,000 or 600,000 ballots (from only 1 of the swing states) only having checked for the POTUS without any other candidates - highly unlikely. Those were IMO computer generated ballots, and can be quickly validated by a hand count. I also would support Harris request a hand count - having said that the campaign should do it quicker rather than later.
Once Trump is in Office - there will not be a recount or investigation as to what happened.
But also something which gives me hope - Elections are controlled at the State level. What also gives me pause is that GOP Governors (and States where the Legislative body is GOP controlled) have shown an absolute willingness for political corruption to benefit their side.
Also thinking that Trump needs/wants/ and will manufacture a Trigger Event so that he can call for Martial Law - would be helpful to have a legal reason to do what he plans to do regardless of what happens.
As someone said, the potential purge of the Generals will quickly weed out those that in the military that will not support or rather be loyal to Trump.
The former GOP has demonstrated to our faces - that they are pledging loyalty to Trump over the nation and Constitution. That regardless of what happens, we should never forget.
The MAGA people are saying that we are all upset over a vote without understanding their lack of morality as indicated by their vote. They are saying we should come together for the sake of our families and friends. I would not advise anyone on this course of action - one way or the other. I would point to history - the MAGA type people will be the first ones to turn you and your friends/family into the forces that be - because it is their nature. They will support evil - and much later, like the German people of Hitlers time, profess to not have known about the evil performed in their names.
The question that I mentally contend with is this - once the government steps over that line (whatever it might be), into illegality, full blown corruption, and other acts that the Supreme Court says are legal for a POTUS - what then? How should I respond? Am I by supporting or doing nothing, am I complicit in the evil? Should we be like the White Rose (I think the kids were called that) and maybe perform passive resistance? I think we know what tyrants do to people that resist. Given that we are in a minority - what does resistance look like? What say our leaders and how would they recommend our response should be? We should know from our history that leaders have a way of dying when they threaten the powers that be.
Musk and the oligarchs that are running our nation (Jimmy Carter pointed that out some years ago) control the Media - so the propaganda will be discouraging, and it will actively portray resistance as the enemies of democracies. How do you counter that - when J. Hoover was running the FBI (while cross dressing as the clubs) - he was promoting law & order against others while violating the laws to pursue the agenda of the Right.
Social Media, the Press - all are controlled by the Oligarchs and their content and positions that are represented on their sites - are determined by those in control. So at what point do I tune them out, or rather like the Soviets in the past, listen to the media because even in their lying I could find out the truth.
But then again, people elected Trump, the majority! Right now, while I am thinking I know that I am in the backseat of the car speeding toward a train wreck. Lots to think about.
I am thinking this - women, I fear for our sisters, mothers and daughters ; mass deportations which will be directed at POC; Health Care, Veterans Benefits. I know that there are no direct actions that I could do because the people he will put in charge, are like a virus destroying from within.
But I do know this - be careful what you post, think about what you post, because one of the freedoms that we have already lost - is free speech in the electronic age.
Just thinking
.and always, of course I could be wrong, have to think on that too.
Excuse grammar mistakes.