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Sun Nov 17, 2024, 12:19 PM Sunday

How to talk to MAGA relatives over the holidays [View all]

Many of us are dreading upcoming holidays with MAGA kin we can't avoid. I've been thinking about this and I have two suggestions and a warning.

Let me know what you think. I value feedback and even pushback from my DU family.

Suggestion 1. Politely disagree with blatant falsehoods. Your BIL says some Trump lie at the Thanksgiving table? You're afraid to speak up, because manners. Politely say, "I don't think that's true." Repeat as necessary. Keep saying it, with slightly different words. "That's not what I read." "I don't agree." "That's not my understanding." Repeating, calmly but firmly, is very powerful. Don't feel obligated to cite a lot of facts and figures. You're not trying to change their mind. You're stating your disagreement. You're not going along with falsehoods and bigotry. Silence is complicity. Don't be silent. Don't let them get you emotional, either.

Suggestion 2. When Trump voters talk about how wonderful things will be as soon as Trump takes office, say "I hope that's true." Over and over again. "I hope that's true." Don't argue. Don't try to make them see how bad RFK Jr. will be. They won't listen. Just say, "I hope that's true."

The Warning. Trump has promised the moon and it's not possible for all those wonderful things to come true. When they don't, Republicans will try to shift the blame to Democrats. Don't let them.

Already, here on DU, we hear echoes of that "blame the Dems" strategy. Please don't give into that. Don't assume blame.

For once, let the Trump voters confront their disappointment without letting them shift the blame. Our democracy depends on this.

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All good suggestions... Hugin Sunday #1
I like your suggestion best! yardwork Sunday #2
De nada. Hugin Sunday #3
Or even durablend Sunday #16
I must admit... Hugin Sunday #31
I needed these laughs! yardwork Sunday #42
Fucking keepthemhonestO Sunday #63
Seat them in the garage, next to the garbage cans and cat litter box. MrWowWow Sunday #4
Pre-Thanksgiving visit-- viva la Sunday #5
Perfect response! yardwork Sunday #18
This is a great approach. LisaM Sunday #49
Tell her to be prepared for SKYROCKETING food prices when all those workers are gone...... AZ8theist Sunday #68
I've asked a few people if they were going to clean their own toilets. quaint Sunday #98
I asked a relative "who will wipe your fanny when you can no longer do it". No Vested Interest Sunday #101
Good plan, DON'T PARTICIPATE! Think. Again. Sunday #6
That's not what I'm saying. At all. yardwork Sunday #19
I respect your position, but disagree... Think. Again. Sunday #21
I agree with the part about remembering who they are. yardwork Sunday #46
I don't agree Mossfern Sunday #43
That's what a lot of us have done, and it didn't work. yardwork Sunday #47
As I mentioned earlier, these are nazis we're talking about.... Think. Again. Sunday #50
so just obey in advance then? lay down? mopinko Sunday #69
No, non-cooperation resistance would be much more effective. Think. Again. Sunday #74
During the last election Mossfern Sunday #60
Well, I think that he was a d**k, being that he wore a tRUMP shirt to a family outing. I am glad you ignored him, SWBTATTReg Sunday #86
No. Why are you willing to put up with their disrespect? Betty Boom Sunday #75
I agree it is important, politely, to make it clear where you stand. Cassidy Sunday #66
"How do you know?" lastlib Sunday #79
I'm going to ask my farming relatives a question NickB79 Sunday #7
I like it! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sunday #10
I will not be engaging in debates with any maga family members this Holiday season standingtall Sunday #8
I'm not saying to debate the lies. Quite the opposite. yardwork Sunday #20
I wish you the best for a peaceful holiday. Hope22 Sunday #91
If I had a choice between eating at Right-wing relatives house, or going out to Kobe's for Thanksgiving. Baitball Blogger Sunday #9
Every time! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sunday #11
Some of us don't have that option, though. yardwork Sunday #23
That's where we're different. Baitball Blogger Sunday #24
The beauty of remaining polite and calm is that the disruption is on them. yardwork Sunday #48
I would even The Madcap Sunday #44
I cut the the abusive alcoholics/addicts and their enablers out of my life long ago. canuckledragger Sunday #84
I don't associate with people John Shaft Sunday #12
I just slip them valium... hlthe2b Sunday #13
They'll be well "medicated" with liquor all by themselves. yardwork Sunday #54
I am so fortunate. greatauntoftriplets Sunday #14
Same here. One Republican brother who's a never Trumper MaryMagdaline Sunday #80
There are some like that, hopefully more than we know of. greatauntoftriplets Sunday #85
Pritzker is great! MaryMagdaline Sunday #94
Best IL governor of my lifetime. greatauntoftriplets Sunday #96
Here is what to say: NameAlreadyTaken Sunday #15
Serve yourself a huge serving and surround yourself with all the food kerouac2 Sunday #17
I don't. I ignore politics. When around them. The Third Doctor Sunday #22
3. Don't go JustAnotherGen Sunday #25
Can't avoid it without really upsetting older relatives. yardwork Sunday #51
Then make it clear to those older relatives... Betty Boom Sunday #72
That's their problem, not yours. NameAlreadyTaken Monday #110
I'm not going to reject my entire family and network of friends because of a few Trumpsters. yardwork Monday #115
But what is there to celebrate, when NameAlreadyTaken Monday #117
We're not. onecaliberal Sunday #64
This is the only correct answer. NameAlreadyTaken Monday #109
I'd rather not. RandySF Sunday #26
Bold of you to think we will have a democracy. nt. Voltaire2 Sunday #27
Morse code. Semaphore. Flashing mirrors. Something with distance. keithbvadu2 Sunday #28
I don't associate with Nazis JoseBalow Sunday #29
Give them the bird. ⚠️ warning ⚠️ usonian Sunday #30
Don't invite them or decline to attend would be my choice. cstanleytech Sunday #32
three words to them. "go fuck yourself" NoRethugFriends Sunday #33
Is it really true that he has "promised the moon"? Jeebo Sunday #34
Good points. However, he did make promises. yardwork Sunday #57
You're ignoring the stuff the GOP will do Arazi Sunday #70
Not ignoring, just keeping focus. Jeebo Sunday #89
He promised no tax on tips, social security, or overtime. Demobrat Sunday #76
He might be telling the truth about no tax on Social Security wnylib Sunday #105
Bullshit k0rs Sunday #35
When listening to them just remember Ping Tung Sunday #36
Not a problem in my house Skelly Sunday #37
I won't... orwell Sunday #38
I won't... orwell Sunday #39
Are you kidding? AverageOldGuy Sunday #40
That's a nice fantasy but the wife-approval factor is negative. yardwork Sunday #53
my wife looks out for me before her family and I do likewise. drray23 Sunday #55
I'm with you. FoxNewsSucks Sunday #62
I'll be around magas at Christmas this year in Arizona visiting my husband's family. kimbutgar Sunday #41
I have a much simpler approach. drray23 Sunday #45
I plan not to talk to them at all. Easier on everyone.. Lonestarblue Sunday #52
I think this is brilliant. crim son Sunday #56
Thanks! yardwork Sunday #59
I don't know how people do it. I can't. But if I had to Demobrat Sunday #58
"No politics. Sorry. You wanna talk sex or religion?" dalton99a Sunday #61
I'm thankful none of my relatives are cultists. sakabatou Sunday #65
I'm just going to start with a prayer for my late Uncle Don... rubbersole Sunday #67
No. These are no-contact holidays Betty Boom Sunday #71
Maga relatives? LilElf70 Sunday #73
Here's my suggestion...hey...STFU PortTack Sunday #77
First, I'll ask if they have a good appetite and a strong stomach Martin Eden Sunday #78
I agree proud patriot Sunday #81
I don't ibegurpard Sunday #82
Anyone bringing up politics should be told not to. Scrivener7 Sunday #83
This won't work for those with loud mouth relatives who can't shut up about it or those who... AkFemDem Sunday #87
Thankfully I have no MAGA relatives Fish700 Sunday #88
My answer is don't! Hope22 Sunday #90
How I plan to talk to my relatives, some of whom probably voted Trump, others I know didn't: Seeking Serenity Sunday #92
My personal "favorite" is when someone says Seinan Sensei Sunday #93
I don't even KNOW any Maga assholes. We will all be Democrats. Our motto: Living well is the best revenge CTyankee Sunday #95
Not one of them assholes will be welcome at our house! bluestarone Sunday #97
Put on a sign that reads "I'm taking a vow of silence" Hassler Sunday #99
MAGA now owns this bmichaelh Sunday #100
bring Leslie Skittles Sunday #102
How about... wryter2000 Sunday #103
As we usually host for the holidays, it's quite simple. Littlered Sunday #104
tg I do not have any relatives crazy enough to support the psycho Meowmee Sunday #106
Book on How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times pat_k Sunday #107
It's very simple. I won't. geomon666 Monday #108
Should be plenty of other things to talk about other then politics Raine Monday #111
Our MAGA relatives we have nothing to do with. They would never be invited Emile Monday #112
Sounds like torture. Why attend? travelingthrulife Monday #113
This thread is sad. PennRalphie Monday #114
That's what my OP is about. yardwork Monday #116
TOTALLY Agree... nt Raine Monday #118
I cannot imagine anyone sitting down at a holiday meal with someone they know voted for Trump. hamsterjill Monday #119
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