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pat_k

(12,665 posts)
107. Book on How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 11:58 PM
Nov 2024

Recommended book:

I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times
By Monica Guzman

It is possible to have respectful conversations with many people on the "other side." (But certainly not all.) I think the recommendations in the book can be very helpful. And when the techniques don't work and the other person is just being contrary, or when your own anger or hurt or whatever kicks in, disengage, respectfully.

Some of my takeaways from the book

-- Don't go into the conversation to change minds. Just let that go. Completely.

-- Ask genuinely curious questions (not "gotcha" questions). The book has a lot of guidance on this.

-- Don't argue conclusions. Reserve debating facts for later in the conversation. Shift to the personal as much as possible. What experiences in their life shaped their views? Share the experiences in your life that shaped your views.

For example, the author's father is a Trump voter. Part of the reason is that growing up in Mexico he saw a lot of corruption. His own father was a very honest, law-abiding man and instilled those values in him. He saw his father ridiculed for being law-abiding. When the author's father was able, he immigrated here legally. He came because he saw America as a nation of laws – not corrupt like Mexico. He believes people coming across the border without following the rules should be stopped. Try to change the laws, sure, but until the law is changed, for him, the law is the law. Period.


Sometimes, when you understand where someone is actually coming from -- not what you assume they are thinking -- it's a little easier to understand why they are where they are.


-- Listen. Show you've listened by paraphrasing what you heard them say. Sometimes when you do that an assumption of yours that is wrong sneaks in. You are giving them a chance to correct you before responding to what you've heard.) No one is ready to hear what you have to say if they don't feel you heard what they have to say.

-- When responding, stick with what is going on with you. (When I hear you say (whatever) I (whatever)...)

-- Be honest and clear. If you can't state your values and what led to them without being confrontational, disengage, respectfully. ("I am feeling very hurt/emotional/angry/vulnerable/whatever right now and need to stop talking about this. No need to explain. Just state what is going on for you. Don't blame (don't say "You are making me very ..." )



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All good suggestions... Hugin Nov 2024 #1
I like your suggestion best! yardwork Nov 2024 #2
De nada. Hugin Nov 2024 #3
Or even durablend Nov 2024 #16
I must admit... Hugin Nov 2024 #31
I needed these laughs! yardwork Nov 2024 #42
Fucking keepthemhonestO Nov 2024 #63
Seat them in the garage, next to the garbage cans and cat litter box. MrWowWow Nov 2024 #4
Pre-Thanksgiving visit-- viva la Nov 2024 #5
Perfect response! yardwork Nov 2024 #18
This is a great approach. LisaM Nov 2024 #49
Tell her to be prepared for SKYROCKETING food prices when all those workers are gone...... AZ8theist Nov 2024 #68
I've asked a few people if they were going to clean their own toilets. quaint Nov 2024 #98
I asked a relative "who will wipe your fanny when you can no longer do it". No Vested Interest Nov 2024 #101
Good plan, DON'T PARTICIPATE! Think. Again. Nov 2024 #6
That's not what I'm saying. At all. yardwork Nov 2024 #19
I respect your position, but disagree... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #21
I agree with the part about remembering who they are. yardwork Nov 2024 #46
I don't agree Mossfern Nov 2024 #43
That's what a lot of us have done, and it didn't work. yardwork Nov 2024 #47
As I mentioned earlier, these are nazis we're talking about.... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #50
so just obey in advance then? lay down? mopinko Nov 2024 #69
No, non-cooperation resistance would be much more effective. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #74
During the last election Mossfern Nov 2024 #60
Well, I think that he was a d**k, being that he wore a tRUMP shirt to a family outing. I am glad you ignored him, SWBTATTReg Nov 2024 #86
No. Why are you willing to put up with their disrespect? Betty Boom Nov 2024 #75
I agree it is important, politely, to make it clear where you stand. Cassidy Nov 2024 #66
"How do you know?" lastlib Nov 2024 #79
I'm going to ask my farming relatives a question NickB79 Nov 2024 #7
I like it! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 2024 #10
I will not be engaging in debates with any maga family members this Holiday season standingtall Nov 2024 #8
I'm not saying to debate the lies. Quite the opposite. yardwork Nov 2024 #20
I wish you the best for a peaceful holiday. Hope22 Nov 2024 #91
If I had a choice between eating at Right-wing relatives house, or going out to Kobe's for Thanksgiving. Baitball Blogger Nov 2024 #9
Every time! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 2024 #11
Some of us don't have that option, though. yardwork Nov 2024 #23
That's where we're different. Baitball Blogger Nov 2024 #24
The beauty of remaining polite and calm is that the disruption is on them. yardwork Nov 2024 #48
I would even The Madcap Nov 2024 #44
I cut the the abusive alcoholics/addicts and their enablers out of my life long ago. canuckledragger Nov 2024 #84
I don't associate with people John Shaft Nov 2024 #12
I just slip them valium... hlthe2b Nov 2024 #13
They'll be well "medicated" with liquor all by themselves. yardwork Nov 2024 #54
I am so fortunate. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #14
Same here. One Republican brother who's a never Trumper MaryMagdaline Nov 2024 #80
There are some like that, hopefully more than we know of. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #85
Pritzker is great! MaryMagdaline Nov 2024 #94
Best IL governor of my lifetime. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #96
Here is what to say: NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2024 #15
Serve yourself a huge serving and surround yourself with all the food kerouac2 Nov 2024 #17
I don't. I ignore politics. When around them. The Third Doctor Nov 2024 #22
3. Don't go JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #25
Can't avoid it without really upsetting older relatives. yardwork Nov 2024 #51
Then make it clear to those older relatives... Betty Boom Nov 2024 #72
That's their problem, not yours. NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2024 #110
I'm not going to reject my entire family and network of friends because of a few Trumpsters. yardwork Nov 2024 #115
But what is there to celebrate, when NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2024 #117
We're not. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #64
This is the only correct answer. NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2024 #109
I'd rather not. RandySF Nov 2024 #26
Bold of you to think we will have a democracy. nt. Voltaire2 Nov 2024 #27
Morse code. Semaphore. Flashing mirrors. Something with distance. keithbvadu2 Nov 2024 #28
I don't associate with Nazis JoseBalow Nov 2024 #29
Give them the bird. ⚠️ warning ⚠️ usonian Nov 2024 #30
Don't invite them or decline to attend would be my choice. cstanleytech Nov 2024 #32
three words to them. "go fuck yourself" NoRethugFriends Nov 2024 #33
Is it really true that he has "promised the moon"? Jeebo Nov 2024 #34
Good points. However, he did make promises. yardwork Nov 2024 #57
You're ignoring the stuff the GOP will do Arazi Nov 2024 #70
Not ignoring, just keeping focus. Jeebo Nov 2024 #89
He promised no tax on tips, social security, or overtime. Demobrat Nov 2024 #76
He might be telling the truth about no tax on Social Security wnylib Nov 2024 #105
Bullshit k0rs Nov 2024 #35
When listening to them just remember Ping Tung Nov 2024 #36
Not a problem in my house Skelly Nov 2024 #37
I won't... orwell Nov 2024 #38
I won't... orwell Nov 2024 #39
Are you kidding? AverageOldGuy Nov 2024 #40
That's a nice fantasy but the wife-approval factor is negative. yardwork Nov 2024 #53
my wife looks out for me before her family and I do likewise. drray23 Nov 2024 #55
I'm with you. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2024 #62
I'll be around magas at Christmas this year in Arizona visiting my husband's family. kimbutgar Nov 2024 #41
I have a much simpler approach. drray23 Nov 2024 #45
I plan not to talk to them at all. Easier on everyone.. Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #52
I think this is brilliant. crim son Nov 2024 #56
Thanks! yardwork Nov 2024 #59
I don't know how people do it. I can't. But if I had to Demobrat Nov 2024 #58
"No politics. Sorry. You wanna talk sex or religion?" dalton99a Nov 2024 #61
I'm thankful none of my relatives are cultists. sakabatou Nov 2024 #65
I'm just going to start with a prayer for my late Uncle Don... rubbersole Nov 2024 #67
No. These are no-contact holidays Betty Boom Nov 2024 #71
Maga relatives? LilElf70 Nov 2024 #73
Here's my suggestion...hey...STFU PortTack Nov 2024 #77
First, I'll ask if they have a good appetite and a strong stomach Martin Eden Nov 2024 #78
I agree proud patriot Nov 2024 #81
I don't ibegurpard Nov 2024 #82
Anyone bringing up politics should be told not to. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #83
This won't work for those with loud mouth relatives who can't shut up about it or those who... AkFemDem Nov 2024 #87
Thankfully I have no MAGA relatives Fish700 Nov 2024 #88
My answer is don't! Hope22 Nov 2024 #90
How I plan to talk to my relatives, some of whom probably voted Trump, others I know didn't: Seeking Serenity Nov 2024 #92
My personal "favorite" is when someone says Seinan Sensei Nov 2024 #93
I don't even KNOW any Maga assholes. We will all be Democrats. Our motto: Living well is the best revenge CTyankee Nov 2024 #95
Not one of them assholes will be welcome at our house! bluestarone Nov 2024 #97
Put on a sign that reads "I'm taking a vow of silence" Hassler Nov 2024 #99
MAGA now owns this bmichaelh Nov 2024 #100
bring Leslie Skittles Nov 2024 #102
How about... wryter2000 Nov 2024 #103
As we usually host for the holidays, it's quite simple. Littlered Nov 2024 #104
tg I do not have any relatives crazy enough to support the psycho Meowmee Nov 2024 #106
Book on How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times pat_k Nov 2024 #107
It's very simple. I won't. geomon666 Nov 2024 #108
Should be plenty of other things to talk about other then politics Raine Nov 2024 #111
Our MAGA relatives we have nothing to do with. They would never be invited Emile Nov 2024 #112
Sounds like torture. Why attend? travelingthrulife Nov 2024 #113
This thread is sad. PennRalphie Nov 2024 #114
That's what my OP is about. yardwork Nov 2024 #116
TOTALLY Agree... nt Raine Nov 2024 #118
I cannot imagine anyone sitting down at a holiday meal with someone they know voted for Trump. hamsterjill Nov 2024 #119
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