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50. I think the "electorate" as the denominator...

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Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:37 AM

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... makes the most sense. But it doesn't make much difference to the conclusion.

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A NYT opinion column that nails it. [View all] crud Nov 17 OP

Thanks for this 😊 Blue_Tires Nov 17 #1

that one is a few years too late. rampartd Nov 17 #2

They can never undo all of their sane-washing wolfie001 Nov 17 #23

"liberal new york times" rampartd Nov 18 #40

Judith Miller barf wolfie001 Nov 18 #48

oh NOW they say it Skittles Nov 17 #3

"They" aren't saying it. This is a Roxanne Gay Op-Ed. maxsolomon Nov 18 #56

The NY Times encouraged and supported, actively, Trump, both in 2016 and in 2024. Fuck that "but her emails..." "old... NNadir Nov 17 #4

For ALL practical purposes, simply put DENVERPOPS Nov 18 #51

Oh wow NOW a warning? mountain grammy Nov 17 #5

Since its an Opinion/Editorial by Roxanne Gay maxsolomon Nov 18 #53

And yet, somehow, they couldn't endorse Harris. Grumpy Old Guy Nov 17 #6

I'm pretty sure NYT DID endorse VP Harris Seeking Serenity Nov 17 #8

False Shrek Nov 17 #13

It was the Washington Post that didn't endorse her radical noodle Nov 17 #14

I stand corrected. Grumpy Old Guy Nov 17 #30

And yet you did not correct the post that accused them of not endorsing Harris maxsolomon Nov 18 #52

No, the Washington Post refused endorsements, whathehell Nov 18 #49

Wtf?? WE'VE been saying the exact same B.See Nov 17 #7

Great piece by Contributing Opinion Writer Roxane Gay. Pinback Nov 17 #9

This piece makes a too-common, WRONG assumption about who "we" are. 22% of Americans is NOT who 78% of Americans are. ancianita Nov 17 #10

Thank you for that. If only we could convince more to vote. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 17 #18

YW. Just mapping it out helps. ancianita Nov 17 #21

Brilliant response - thank you! jmbar2 Nov 17 #24

Absolutely! ancianita Nov 17 #25

I really like your fighting spirit jmbar2 Nov 17 #26

Awwww, hell to the YEAH !!! Seinan Sensei Nov 17 #28

i love what you wrote but where are you getting the 22% number (and the 78% number)? nt orleans Nov 17 #32

Thanks. Sure. ancianita Nov 17 #33

got it! thank you! orleans Nov 17 #35

29% of US voting age population voted for Trump in 2024. SomewhereInTheMiddle Nov 18 #42

Exactly. ancianita Nov 18 #44

76,510,127 / 244,666,890 eligible-to-vote equals 31.3% of those eligible to vote voted for tRump nmmi Nov 18 #47

If you want to use a university from Florida, run by Sasse/Fuchs, I'm not going to argue about eligible vote numbers. ancianita Nov 18 #57

If you have any other source, I will gladly use that. nmmi Nov 18 #73

Sure. I live in Florida and since covid, don't trust Florida's govt or RW universities. I use other sources. ancianita Nov 18 #74

Sorry, but as I patiently pointed out, not everyone who is over 18 can legally vote - e.g. non-citizens. a lot of felons nmmi Nov 18 #75

If you want the electorate population, you have to do the math as shown in my posts above. ancianita Nov 18 #76

Uh, err, you forgot that many felons can't vote. And the undocumented population is a subset of non-citizens nmmi Nov 18 #77

I think the "electorate" as the denominator... reACTIONary Nov 18 #50

I do, too, since it's the bigger population that, divided into Trump votes, shows them as a percent of ancianita Nov 18 #58

Sorry, but no Cosmocat Nov 18 #43

Worth considering, so here goes. ancianita Nov 18 #45

but 346,134,190 is not of voting age mahina Nov 18 #81

Right F'ckn On! montanacowboy Nov 17 #11

No thanks mcar Nov 17 #12

Where were they in the last days before the election? brush Nov 17 #15

They had their heads buried in the sand sakabatou Nov 17 #16

Did you read the same NYT I did in the last days before the election? maxsolomon Nov 18 #55

I watched NYT staffers on cable constantly bash Biden/Harris. brush Nov 18 #61

I'm defending it because I don't believe its the malign actor that you do, maxsolomon Nov 18 #62

Oh please. The NYT is ust about as complicit in not going after the 'weaving', white supremacist asshole that is tsrump. brush Nov 18 #63

What am I supposed to subscribe to? The Daily Worker? maxsolomon Nov 18 #68

Seems to me the NYT bashed Biden/Harris as much as you allege it declared trump unfit. brush Nov 18 #70

The NYT has been an active participant in the propaganda network. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 17 #17

Exactly. ancianita Nov 17 #27

Dietrich Bonhoeffer said stupid prople are the most dangerous Beck23 Nov 17 #19

Yes, and Bonhoeffer knew why. ancianita Nov 17 #29

A NYT opinion column that nails it. MLWR Nov 17 #20

Too little, too late. Fuck the NYT. (nt) Paladin Nov 17 #22

IMO, Harris still had the best chance. Any other dem would have done much worse AlexSFCA Nov 17 #31

Agree. ancianita Nov 17 #36

Roxane Gay, a contributing Opinion writer, continues... Hekate Nov 17 #34

I wonder... kevinore Nov 17 #37

Archive littlemissmartypants Nov 17 #38

Day late and several dollars short relayerbob Nov 18 #39

Too little, too late. Old Crank Nov 18 #41

To my knowledge PennRalphie Nov 18 #46

Said it the other day... krkaufman Nov 18 #54

Another good piece... krkaufman Nov 19 #84

There were several excellent op-ed columns in yesterday's NYT bif Nov 18 #59

That's the most important thing. maxsolomon Nov 18 #60

I still subscribe to the NYTimes because they have some great writers and reporters (and the crossword and games), but LymphocyteLover Nov 18 #65

Can you point at a single mainstream US newspaper whose priorities weren't "warped"? maxsolomon Nov 18 #69

Actually our Detroit Free Press is pretty decent. bif Nov 18 #71

In what way? maxsolomon Nov 18 #78

Do you work for them? JustAnotherGen Nov 18 #80

I don't work for them. Are you serious? maxsolomon Nov 18 #82

I don't know. My local paper avoids partisan politics as much as they can. Seemed like the Philadelphia Enquirer LymphocyteLover Nov 18 #83

OMG yes! The people most under-represented in the media are regular sane Democrats like us!!! LymphocyteLover Nov 18 #64

I love the NYT's Sunday Edition bif Nov 18 #66

Where were they JustAnotherGen Nov 18 #67

Tell me you don't read the NYT without telling me you don't read the NYT. maxsolomon Nov 18 #72

Ah - yeah i didn't and won't JustAnotherGen Nov 18 #79