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Ocelot II

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2. I have been mulling over the question of whether Harris could have defeated
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:53 AM
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someone like, for example, Mitt Romney. I don't like Romney; I didn't like him when he ran against Obama. But he's normal. He had policy ideas and theories which I didn't agree with but at least he had some. He came across as a clueless plutocrat and he didn't present well when rubbing shoulders with the unwashed proletariat but he didn't seem insane. He doesn't have a history of debauched personal behavior and outright fraud. You wouldn't expect him to barge into a dressing room full of naked teenaged girls or paying off a porn actress or brag about grabbing women's crotches and certainly not raping them in department store dressing rooms. I don't think Mitt has ever been accused of a felony, let alone convicted of one (or 34). If Harris had run against and been defeated by Romney I would have been deeply disappointed but not horrified; the people who voted for Romney in 2012 weren't dumb; just IMO mistaken. I wouldn't have attributed Harris losing to Romney as the result of rampant misogyny (though it certainly would have been a factor) because there would also have been rational reasons for some people to vote for him. There were no rational reasons to vote for Trump. He offers nothing good, useful, sensible or decent. Voting for him was dumb, at best; if you knew exactly what he is and thought, "Yeah, I want more of that," you're worse than dumb, you're evil.

Intellectually lazy or shallow. Or both. ms liberty Monday #1
I have been mulling over the question of whether Harris could have defeated Ocelot II Monday #2
This is what I've been thinking, too. yardwork Monday #6
I blame the Kardashians and other "reality" shows..... now it's cool to be stupid. groundloop Monday #64
That's where Trump got his start. Dumb fake reality shows. yardwork Monday #68
The dumbing up of AmeriKKKa,.... magicarpet Monday #106
Oh,.. let's not forget the dumbest of them all magicarpet Monday #107
Reality TV, social media and now AI radius777 Tuesday #161
It all changed when Obama was elected. ECL213 Monday #67
It might be a coincidence, but the timing is sure suspicious. yardwork Monday #69
The task escalated from defeating a candidate to defeating Russian, Chinese, Iranian and far right disinformation. mahina Tuesday #139
I agree with this. yardwork Tuesday #142
The ONLY thing i disagree with you on is cyndensco Monday #3
This NewHendoLib Monday #5
Thanks! yardwork Monday #7
+1 RockRaven Monday #10
I think the qualifier makes it more powerful jfz9580m Monday #56
Thank you! yardwork Monday #59
Oh, wow, are you ever on track! soldierant Monday #125
Thank you! jfz9580m Monday #126
Thank you. soldierant Tuesday #159
Give systems more resources. I would not use less than 32GB of RAM TheKentuckian Monday #131
This is why I basically withdrew... Hugin Monday #4
No you are right...I have two sons and they are intelligent but dumb JT45242 Monday #8
We saw some of this in 2000, and then it accelerated in 2016. yardwork Monday #12
But they and huge parts of their generation are the worst purity voters. Mariana Monday #60
The same kind of targeted propaganda. EarlG explained it well. yardwork Monday #61
Many have been vouchered into ignorance. Jit423 Monday #9
George Carlin was right!. Stupid People EVERYWHERE IrishBubbaLiberal Monday #11
Speaking of George Carlin, here he is on Olbermann's old MSNBC show "Countdown". keep_left Monday #72
Do I miss him. His voice would be so relevant today. Evolve Dammit Monday #76
Stupid people reproduce like bunnies IronLionZion Monday #13
And now it's glorified not fooled Monday #14
I think that dumb markodochartaigh Monday #15
54% of adults are literate to just below a sixth grade level. Hotler Monday #16
Literacy is a hidden issue. yardwork Monday #39
Wow! ReRe Monday #97
This message was self-deleted by its author Hotler Monday #100
Italian economist explains the 5 laws of stupid people. Worth a read. Pepsidog Monday #17
There is also a great you tube video on the mass psychosis that fits JT45242 Monday #18
That is fascinating! yardwork Monday #31
Nixon wasn't a meat puppet. Every Republican President and nominee starting with Reagan has been a meat puppet. hunter Monday #19
HW Bush wasn't stupid peregrinus Monday #26
HW Bush was ethically compromised. hunter Monday #37
Agreed, but compare him to Trump... yardwork Monday #40
Cmon, give us a source. raccoon Monday #42
Not even light work. I just note how people refuse to JCMach1 Monday #20
I know a bunch of them myself kimbutgar Monday #21
Eliminating the draft has changed our country dlk Monday #22
And in the sixties, with the war in Vietnam, the draft brought organized rebellion and critical thinking to new levels. SupportSanity Monday #120
Many people do not have good critical thinking skills Buckeyeblue Monday #23
How did you hear me in my kitchen last night? BigmanPigman Monday #24
K&R Solly Mack Monday #25
Willfully ignorant, lazy, irresponsible, selfish, hate filled, racist and sexist. Irish_Dem Monday #27
Willfully, or just plain, ignorant is the answer. The rest of your list hits the spot too. Magoo48 Monday #33
Most of the MAGAs I know are lying when they spout Trump nonsense. Irish_Dem Monday #36
Okay, you've had it buddy. I used my rec-ing ball on you. jaxexpat Monday #28
I thought Bill Maher had a good take on this. Littlered Monday #29
What exactly is the party's social agenda? Stuckinthebush Monday #34
"social agenda" means everyone treated like human beings Skittles Monday #104
Bill Maher is dumb. yardwork Monday #38
preach it, yardwork Skittles Monday #109
do you not get it? Skittles Monday #101
Gaslighting John Shaft Monday #130
"social agenda" - still waiting on you to define this. TBF Tuesday #154
Willful ignorance! Nt Grumpy Old Guy Monday #30
We have reaped the rewards of 40 years of the intentional destruction of American education. flashman13 Monday #32
that's how they want them 4catsmom Monday #35
"It's the army they didn't have to pay for." Yep. That's IT. RIGHT THERE. calimary Monday #47
Feature, not a glitch. Iggo Monday #41
It's not about being merely "dumb" Blue_Tires Monday #43
That's my definition of dumb, right there. yardwork Monday #48
You are absolutely RIGHT. They're dumb. They dumbly choose against reading and lifelong learning as essential. ancianita Monday #44
This, right here: yardwork Monday #54
Fine. Appreciated, but ancianita Monday #81
Maybe????? If this election isn't proof positive, nothing else is. Vinca Monday #45
I was trying to leave the door open for argument... yardwork Monday #49
It's a winning argument, so no, ancianita Monday #85
Republicans wanna finish the job by getting rid of the Dept of Education. BradBo Monday #46
They are nothing if not consistent. yardwork Monday #51
They are dumb DownriverDem Monday #50
Remember half of them are below average........ lastlib Monday #52
The Republicans, with their far-reaching propaganda media, have made every single Democrat in office hadEnuf Monday #53
This. And too many of us go along with it yardwork Monday #58
This right here. hadEnuf Monday #77
Bingo. yardwork Monday #86
Maybe?? n/t Timewas Monday #55
I am having a little difficulty viewing someone who calls themselves yardwork as elitist. You are right, they are dumb. camartinwv Monday #57
They also like to learn the hard way quite a lot. Crowman2009 Monday #62
I think working poor who vote fascist are so miserable that they want to destroy everything around them, yaesu Monday #63
The majority of poor people voted for Harris, though. yardwork Monday #65
And this is interesting Lulu KC Tuesday #156
Their message sounded good to me. yardwork Tuesday #157
Ask any of them BigMin28 Monday #66
Maybe? relayerbob Monday #70
Idiots actually IbogaProject Monday #71
Don't forget that an unanticipated benefit of long workdays for the corporations LT Barclay Monday #73
Great post! Very good points. My only comment would be that neither Nixon or Evolve Dammit Monday #74
We are Dumb All Over JoseBalow Monday #75
Dumb and evil. When one part has gigantic signs at their convention MaryMagdaline Monday #78
They watch Fox, listen to Joe Rogan, the hundreds of all the RW stuff out there. kerry-is-my-prez Monday #79
Every Empire dies... Dan Monday #80
I can't disagree, which is sad. yardwork Monday #88
It's not a matter of academic intelligence or education Joe Nation Monday #82
Just maybe? NoRethugFriends Monday #83
Polly, in Sir Terry Pratchett's 'Monstrous Regiment' GoneOffShore Monday #84
I just watched these three documentaries... LaRaven Monday #87
Welcome back, and thank you! yardwork Monday #90
Thanks. I'm downloading episode 1 of brainwashed. scipan Monday #98
Brainwashed is good - a little weak with the interviews LaRaven Monday #132
Not dumb. Gullible, misinformed, naive. Martin68 Monday #89
To that I would add frequently obtuse, complicit and/or hypocritical. PeaceWave Tuesday #140
I have no doubt Trumpists are hypocritical, but I suspect many people who voted for Trump are not hypocritical Martin68 Tuesday #149
Every morning I visit the Michigan News Agency... Orange Buffoon Monday #91
Half of the Population of the USA is Below Average in Intelligence. MineralMan Monday #92
I'll let you have it -- kudos, that is ! eppur_se_muova Monday #93
I remember the 2000 election. yardwork Monday #95
I don't care if you call them dumb, stupid, or ignorant. GoodRaisin Monday #94
My red town is full of dumb people KS Toronado Monday #96
"Dumb" being too kind a word, imo. My term of choice is B.See Monday #99
That's my definition of dumb. yardwork Monday #102
K n R Faux pas Monday #103
Blaming voters is like a business blaming its customers after a competitor gives it a beating. Doodley Monday #105
Disagree. The government is not a business. yardwork Monday #116
I was using a metaphor to show the futility of blaming voters. Doodley Monday #136
Your metaphor is inapt. yardwork Tuesday #158
I've come to think of the founding fathers as nave John Farmer Monday #108
Jefferson worried about that. yardwork Monday #117
Bonhoeffer on stupidity HUAJIAO Monday #110
No maybe about it amuse bouche Monday #111
Excellent post, yardwork! K&R brer cat Monday #112
Thanks! yardwork Monday #118
George Carlin said: Godot51 Monday #113
Moral/ethical wasteland moondust Monday #114
Agreed. Citizens lost a sense of responsibility. yardwork Monday #119
Exactly. moondust Monday #124
All in the maggot plan, dumb down Americans. Clouds Passing Monday #115
The Southern Strategy and the Powell Doctrine. yardwork Monday #121
Wait until they realize the absolute truth that we are all one race, the human race. Clouds Passing Monday #128
Yes. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #141
Half of us don't want things this way. And in the end 99% of us won't want it this way. Clouds Passing Tuesday #143
Less than half, according to the latest count. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #148
I remember reading that the threshold is 30% yardwork Tuesday #151
What I'll let you have Just Jerome Monday #122
No argument krkaufman Monday #123
Dumb as fuck. orangecrush Monday #127
Not elitist. You're right. They're just dumber than a box of hammers. Scrivener7 Monday #129
...Maybe? Karasu Monday #133
The MSM, the internet and now Trump Aussie105 Monday #134
And they will blame Democrats. yardwork Tuesday #145
Intellectually lazy... róisín_dubh Monday #135
Message auto-removed Name removed Monday #137
The very young and foolish are easily led astray. Aussie105 Tuesday #138
Nope. Racist and sexist. Buttoneer Tuesday #144
Being racist and sexist is dumb. yardwork Tuesday #146
I also think Prosperity Gospel and Megachurches contribute to racism, sexism, and stupidity.. Buttoneer Tuesday #155
I was thinking, and the long term purpose Dan Tuesday #147
There's a list of "the enemies within." yardwork Tuesday #150
Brainwashing 101. Continured scrolling all day long into night with feeds representing LizBeth Tuesday #152
I think arrogant and selfish are closer to the mark The Wandering Harper Tuesday #153
Tell me something Meowmee Tuesday #160
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