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99. I'm really sick of hearing a request for a recount being cmopared to what Trump did

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:43 PM

Nov 18

I request for recounts is nothing at all like a violent insurrection with the purpose of keeping Trump in power, perhaps for the rest of his life.

And furthermore, there is plenty of evidence that indicates that a recount is sorely needed. Whereas Trump's claims were based on nothing but lies. And he never even requested a full hand recount of the votes in any state, probably because he knew that that would show that the election was rigged in HIS favor.

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2 letters Requesting VP Harris to Request of Demand Recounts of 2024 Presidential Election [View all] Time for change Nov 17 OP

K&R Think. Again. Nov 17 #1

Yep things don't pass the smell test to me st least look at it Tribetime Nov 17 #85

Dear Madame Vice President BoRaGard Nov 17 #2

Thanks For Trying SoCalDavidS Nov 17 #3

That's because the campaign is over. tritsofme Nov 17 #5

There most certainly is a choice Time for change Nov 17 #16

Some of us are not presuming there will be valid 2026 MadameButterfly Nov 17 #9

This!!! colorado_ufo Nov 17 #20

And, when you get right down to it, elections in this country HAVE NEVER been safe, for the most part. BComplex Nov 17 #55

Making a law against Citizens United would be a good start. DiamondShark Nov 17 #65

Amen! BComplex Nov 17 #71

From this Canadian's perspective, U.S. elections are... AloeVera Nov 17 #66

I agree at this point. BComplex Nov 17 #72

"Landslide" Lyndon, amirite Seeking Serenity Nov 17 #74

We are already covering this in depth in several other threads Abnredleg Nov 17 #4

Some may not hhave seen the other threads. niyad Nov 17 #15

Thank you. I, for one, have not seen the other threads h2ebits Nov 17 #22

Ditto here. KPN Nov 17 #31

Here's mine: David Boyle Nov 17 #79

Huh! malaise Nov 17 #67

Good! Cetacea Nov 18 #97

is there a limit of one thread per topic? garybeck Nov 18 #98

Please, Madame Vice President... pandr32 Nov 17 #6

The letters will be ignored, as they are CT nonsense Fiendish Thingy Nov 17 #7

Assuming There Were Legitimate Concerns SoCalDavidS Nov 17 #12

Dismissing legitimate concerns as "conspiracy theories" is not reasonable or helpful. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 17 #21

What is the specific concern and what supports that it is valid? TheKentuckian Nov 17 #29

Did your read the two letters? Time for change Nov 17 #37

I did. Our concepts of what evidence is must diverge apparently TheKentuckian Nov 17 #40

For now, I'll start with the first major point that Spoonamore makes Time for change Nov 17 #56

No, I don't even agree he has any findings. TheKentuckian Nov 17 #59

You didn't answer my question Time for change Nov 17 #63

That is correct. I don't agree with the premise that any findings were made to agree with. TheKentuckian Nov 17 #81

But there IS evidence, and there ARE specific reasonable suspicions. Foolacious Nov 18 #93

Apparently the specific concern is that Harris lost. Fish700 Nov 17 #73

I'm really sick of hearing a request for a recount being cmopared to what Trump did Time for change Nov 18 #99

If there was plenty of evidence you would think Harris would be interested in a recount. Fish700 Nov 18 #105

Yes, one would hope so Time for change Nov 18 #106

Democrats concede when they really won, reference; gab13by13 Nov 17 #8

And Hillary Clinton Time for change Nov 17 #83

Here are the Experts Who Should Sign the First Letter MrWowWow Nov 17 #10

Are these people you are suggesting we send the letters to? MadameButterfly Nov 17 #14

Yes MrWowWow Nov 17 #18

Thom Hartmann is going to have markodochartaigh Nov 17 #27

This is very good. Have you sent it to Kamala MadameButterfly Nov 17 #11

I've Reached Max Cynical Level SoCalDavidS Nov 17 #24

Spoonamore did a report on Ohio in 2004 Beck23 Nov 17 #44

Sometimes all you can do is watch. Beck23 Nov 17 #45

Yes, it was MadameButterfly Nov 17 #87

Thank you Time for change Nov 17 #32

Spoonamore has an interesting history. Igel Nov 17 #13

Spoonamore has spent many years working in computer security Time for change Nov 17 #23

Not according to a lot of independent experts totodeinhere Nov 17 #17

"No evidence of votes that disappeared" Qwe Nov 17 #78

NIH: Denial is a common defense mechanism used to protect oneself from the hardship of upsetting reality. Silent Type Nov 17 #19

That is sometimes true Time for change Nov 17 #64

Think we know the truth, some haven't accepted it. Silent Type Nov 17 #68

I see only two important questions . . . Richard D Nov 17 #25

They had help Loupe Garoue Nov 17 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 17 #26

There is no information. Someone wrote letters with amorphous at most speculation in them. TheKentuckian Nov 17 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 17 #53

You sound like you think you understand this issue better than election security experts Time for change Nov 17 #82

Some on the left are embracing election denialism that so many on the right expressed in 2020. LonePirate Nov 17 #28

And It Worked Out Poorly For Them This Year SoCalDavidS Nov 17 #33

Just like 4 years ago . . . Ms. Toad Nov 17 #30

The Alternative SoCalDavidS Nov 17 #35

Unfortunately, Ms. Toad Nov 18 #91

It's not a theory if you can prove it. Beck23 Nov 17 #39

The voting machines are not connected to the internet. Ms. Toad Nov 18 #90

The Internet isn't at all required to rig an election Time for change Nov 18 #100

No, we are not doing anything similar to what Trump did. There are 3 things that make what the writers of these letters Time for change Nov 17 #48

The voting machine conspiracy theories are virtually identical. Ms. Toad Nov 18 #89

false statement stopdiggin Nov 17 #34

He is a cyber security expert and a Republican!! Beck23 Nov 17 #41

and apparently evolving into a kook ... stopdiggin Nov 17 #46

I don't believe anti-science people Beck23 Nov 17 #47

but will latch on to stopdiggin Nov 17 #49

This is good. Beck23 Nov 17 #36

Bullet Ballots DallasNE Nov 17 #42

wrong. Musk was running a (so called) drawing stopdiggin Nov 17 #52

I suppose that some of the bullet ballets were do to Musk's operation Time for change Nov 17 #69

Is there any source for the 600,000 number? King of the sheep Nov 18 #92

Now we're talking LilElf70 Nov 17 #43

Recounts cost millions of dollars; they aren't free MichMan Nov 17 #51

Kamala made over a billion LilElf70 Nov 17 #60

You are totally wrong. The Harris campaign is now in debt. totodeinhere Nov 17 #61

Post removed Post removed Nov 17 #76

Get the unlimited funds out of our elections LilElf70 Nov 17 #77

The whole point of this thread is that Harris might have actually won. Frank D. Lincoln Nov 17 #80

recount JoeBydun Nov 17 #50

How fast some posters seem to johnnyfins Nov 17 #54

Send the Harris campaign a $45,000 check MichMan Nov 17 #57

From earlier Georgia lawsuit testing equipment Autisminsight Nov 17 #58

I don't see where he says the machines were indeed hacked Kaleva Nov 17 #62

He says with regard to the Bullet ballots Time for change Nov 17 #70

The post I replied to doesn't mention bullet ballots Kaleva Nov 17 #84

I'm not against trying something like this ... Jeebo Nov 17 #86

We'll debate and argue about this, but that won't change any facts. lees1975 Nov 18 #88

Were the bullet ballots ONLY in favor of Trump? Foolacious Nov 18 #94

The election is over SpankMe Nov 18 #95

Concessions have no legal status. They can be retracted Time for change Nov 18 #101

There's a time to be right, and there's a time to act strategically SpankMe Nov 18 #104

I strongly disagree that a request for recounts and retraction of her concession would delay a return to Democracy at al Time for change Nov 18 #107

Forget 28, we should be focusing on 26. Initech Nov 18 #102

forget a recount 4catsmom Nov 18 #96

That's a great idea Time for change Nov 18 #103