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14. I can't believe folks are blindly buying this bullet ballot bullshit.

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 03:23 PM

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There is no way Spoonamare can know how many bullet ballots were cast -- that information is not available from any of the states he cites. Nor is there any way he could calculate it from the information that is available.

Indeed, the information that is available resoundingly contradicts his claim. How are there 350,000 "bullet ballots" for Trump in North Carolina -- that is, ballots on which no votes are cast in any of the other elections, when the difference between the total number of ballots cast in the presidential race and the total number cast in the governor's race is far far less that 350,000.

And I just checked Arizona. Again, the difference between the total number of votes cast in the presidential race in those states is only minimally higher than the total number of ballots cast in the elections for US Senator -- around 1.2 percent. That's basically the same % as the difference in presidential race ballots and senate race ballots cast in Arizona in 2020. It's actually less than the difference in the ballots cast in the presidential and senate races in Virginia this year -- 1.3%.

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That Spoonamore guy who wrote the "Duty to Warn" letter is going to be on Thom Hartmann in about 10 minutes. [View all] LaMouffette Nov 18 OP

I can't really doubt his allegations... Think. Again. Nov 18 #1

He seems to have pulled his numbers from thin air muriel_volestrangler Nov 18 #3

His number estimates aren't important... Think. Again. Nov 18 #4

I hadn't seen any facts about how hacks were done on DU muriel_volestrangler Nov 18 #5

yes, that's exactly why recounts must be done... Think. Again. Nov 18 #7

Harris is a "true Dem," no? It's pretty easy to understand why she is not pushing recounts. tritsofme Nov 18 #10

You really shouldn't make up things that other people said. Think. Again. Nov 18 #11

Of course she hasn't. Why would she address baseless conspiracy theories floating around the fringes of the internet? tritsofme Nov 18 #16

Then people should not put words in her mouth. Think. Again. Nov 18 #17

I didn't put any words in her mouth. I said she is not pushing recounts, and she is not. tritsofme Nov 18 #18

I'm sure she is quite capable of keeping quite about any plans she may have. Think. Again. Nov 18 #20

lol, the conspiracy theory takes another turn! tritsofme Nov 18 #25

You might be trying to dig a rabbit hole. Think. Again. Nov 18 #27

Some folks are certainly down deep in one. tritsofme Nov 18 #29

Recounts must be done because there haven't been any facts about the hacks on DU? muriel_volestrangler Nov 18 #22

Your resistence to verifying the first-count results is noted. Think. Again. Nov 18 #28

Look, I'm responding to your posts. Please respond to mine. muriel_volestrangler Nov 18 #30

Perhaps this short interview today with Steven Spoonamore himself... Think. Again. Nov 18 #31

No, it doesn't. He starts off with a hypothetical without evidence muriel_volestrangler Nov 18 #32

You can't argue with willfully ignorance asm128 Nov 19 #38

I'm trying to find some exit polls and the regular polls close to the election. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 18 #34

How are the "estimates" not important when they are supposedly the trigger for the alarm? TheKentuckian Nov 19 #36

What SHOULD trigger the alarm... Think. Again. Nov 19 #37

wish there was... 2naSalit Nov 18 #2

Can anyone supply a link to this segment? Think. Again. Nov 18 #6

Here's a youtube link, 3-hour show, Spoonamore is at the beginning of the third hour. CoopersDad Nov 18 #8

Thank you! Think. Again. Nov 18 #12

Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45 ---------- ConcernedCitizen1776 Nov 19 #39

Spoonamore said that the only person who can ask for a recount is Kamala Harris. I am going to write to my senator LaMouffette Nov 18 #9

i posted a couple different things after the show orleans Nov 18 #13

I can't believe folks are blindly buying this bullet ballot bullshit. onenote Nov 18 #14

With all due respect... ElementaryPenguin Nov 18 #23

With all due respect, the numbers speak for themselves onenote Nov 18 #26

Also, apparently a candidate must wait... Think. Again. Nov 18 #15

I found Spoonamore extremely credible ElementaryPenguin Nov 18 #19

K&R Think. Again. Nov 18 #21

Did he explain how he determined the number of "bullet ballots"? onenote Nov 18 #24

I did a search for Spoonamore on DU and this 16 year old thread came up EarlG Nov 18 #33

Here's the video from the show: Rhiannon12866 Nov 19 #35