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jimfields33

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2. But we won in 1992, 1996, 2008, 2012, 2020

Reply to mdbl (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:24 AM

Nov 19

It’s probably more likely the swing back and forth. The voting public are not patient and can change on a dime. We’ve seen it a lot through history. The longest one party had was 16 years. The next was 12. After that it’s been 8 for each party mostly.

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Tha answer to why did Democrats lose is simple [View all] mdbl Nov 19 OP

Yep, how long have they insisted on calling us? "the Democrat party" Walleye Nov 19 #1

But we won in 1992, 1996, 2008, 2012, 2020 jimfields33 Nov 19 #2

except in the last 40 years mdbl Nov 19 #3

Lies that are not pushed pack was a huge problem. jimfields33 Nov 19 #7

Good luck breaking through their echo chamber. mdbl Nov 19 #8

We only need three percent of less to get our message of truth. jimfields33 Nov 19 #16

Harris and Walz pushed back on lies. Voters didn't believe them. yardwork Nov 19 #17

Lol. I havent seen push back. oldmanlynn Nov 19 #22

TSF ran on a WALL of lies. johnnyfins Nov 19 #25

With a complicate media. LakeArenal Nov 19 #28

Like Pravda or Izvestia in the old days. The Unmitigated Gall Nov 19 #30

The Democrats have not had real power in DC since the 90s yardwork Nov 19 #11

It is the non-partisans that are swinging the election Dumpy Nov 19 #12

We won the presidency Cosmocat Nov 19 #21

If you're using the voting public as the metric, the "swing back and forth" part is a debate error. jaxexpat Nov 19 #33

Yes! I've watched republicans say they may not vote for TSF because Tadpole Raisin Nov 19 #4

Looks like they're intent on making their own lies come true. yardwork Nov 19 #5

Create a hellhole, and you'll never lack people to blame (immigrants, liberals, gays, Teh Jooooz!!!) hatrack Nov 19 #10

It's a depressingly age-old, simple, and effective strategy. yardwork Nov 19 #14

A vast ecosystem of misinformation Johnny2X2X Nov 19 #6

We have to compete in kind. Elessar Zappa Nov 19 #26

Agree Johnny2X2X Nov 19 #31

Bull feathers, we need to make dissemination of propaganda a capital crime. jaxexpat Nov 19 #34

Let's remember that right wing SocialDemocrat61 Nov 19 #9

Absolutely mdbl Nov 19 #13

They cast John Kerry and Al Gore as other and evil! yardwork Nov 19 #18

Dems have to learn how to make sure Trump fails miserably kansasobama Nov 19 #15

Right wingers treat government like a game of jenga. Intractable Nov 19 #19

Great description Farmer-Rick Nov 19 #27

Book that explains things very well Ibapah Nov 19 #20

How does a civil war put an end to the RW media ecosystem? Fiendish Thingy Nov 19 #23

Too simplistic. The thirst for simplistic explanations is ever-powerful but not often useful. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 19 #24

Some people did vote for Trump Farmer-Rick Nov 19 #29

Simply extreme. Omnipresent Nov 19 #32

That's what many people thought when learned VP Nixon was the template for the novel, "The Ugly American". jaxexpat Nov 19 #35

Ok Omnipresent Nov 19 #36