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Bluetus

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84. We did not lose this election because of ...
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 12:14 PM
Dec 1

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the MAGA idiots who went to those rallies. That's something like 10 million crazies (racists, misogynists, gun nuts, religious extremists) who have been out there every election one way or another. None of them were ever going to vote for Harris.

And it had nothing to do with the price of eggs or gasoline. Everybody repeating that nonsense doesn't understand how deep these feelings of frustration run.

The "regular Americans" are the 70% of the country who now consistently answer "wrong track," no matter which party is in control. We can all give plenty of examples of how Democrats are different from Republicans. But the "regular Americans" see the same macro trends happening, regardless of which party is in charge. They see the continued transfer of wealth and power to the 0.1%. They see the least health care security and retirement security of any western nations. They see the devastating costs of prescriptions. They see the continued exporting or automation of the best jobs. They see the continued gun violence.

I am not saying that Democrats are equally complicit as Republicans. Indeed, Democrats generally think these are all bad things. But the simple truth is that we have not been able to do very much about these deep concerns when we have had access to some power. Everybody at this forum knows there are enormous forces lined up to support the 0.1% and the biggest corporations. But the "regular Americans" aren't really understanding of that, and we make no real effort to tell them the truth about why these things happen, for fear that we will lose whatever corporate support we get, and therefore be completely wiped off the electoral map.

We had better understand these things and start addressing ourselves to the anxieties and fears of that 70%. This wasn't about one election. This is about Reaganism has done to the country over 40+ years with very little resistance from our side.

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They are brass-plated idiots, all of them. Unbelievable. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 30 #1
'I mean, look y'all, i know thats a leopard. AND i know, its the face-eatin kind... Volaris Nov 30 #17
I prefer "blithering" over "brass-plated", but..... AZ8theist Nov 30 #35
America once led the world in many things Charging Triceratops Nov 30 #2
I wish we could have had a discussion about what it means to compete in the 21st century Bluetus Nov 30 #26
"milquetoast" (one of Cornell West's favorite words when bashing Democrats with the myth they ignore the working class betsuni Nov 30 #63
I don't know about Cornell West Bluetus Nov 30 #64
Who is the "establishment"? betsuni Nov 30 #66
Whatever the American people are angry at. Bluetus Nov 30 #67
Who are these " regular Americans "? love_katz Dec 1 #78
We did not lose this election because of ... Bluetus Dec 1 #84
"tnhe politically correct woke mob who hate christians and kill babies." rampartd Dec 1 #76
Welcome to DU. ms liberty Nov 30 #36
I have heard Diamond_Dog Nov 30 #3
This reminds me of something. ShazzieB Nov 30 #15
lol what a load of shite róisín_dubh Dec 1 #75
They are all absurd reasons Dem4life1234 Nov 30 #4
Absolutely right. ShazzieB Nov 30 #23
They are not only gullible Dem4life1234 Dec 1 #82
A large part of American thinking is controlled by right wing media propaganda. hadEnuf Dec 1 #81
I've heard it said you can't fix stupid......And, yup, there you have it, ya just can't even explain a kennedy Nov 30 #5
Are the quotes real? CharleyDog Nov 30 #6
i'm sure it is paraphrasing but plenty of people voted using one of those reasons, in so many words Takket Nov 30 #22
They're obviously not real Meowmee Nov 30 #51
I'm paraphrasing multiple people from multiple videos. DetlefK Dec 1 #68
Quote #2 is a classic, with a history going back to the Obama years. keep_left Nov 30 #7
Have you noticed? Dem4life1234 Nov 30 #39
Actually, these people were "Trumpers" before Trump... keep_left Nov 30 #56
How could I forget the Tea Party? Dem4life1234 Nov 30 #58
Let's face it Dem4life1234 Nov 30 #8
The Gaza one is nuts. intheflow Nov 30 #9
What's nuttier is... Montauk6 Nov 30 #38
"We are tired of more-of-the-same". More-of-the-same of what? Tired of being forced to only work Hotler Nov 30 #10
right? barbtries Nov 30 #14
The Russians have the perfect expression for people like that DFW Nov 30 #11
Trump gave us so much money from the COVID funds, so I voted for him WhiteTara Nov 30 #12
it's a flood barbtries Nov 30 #13
A tsunami of tstupid, as it were. nt Buns_of_Fire Nov 30 #16
that was the word barbtries Nov 30 #19
But most voters are Tickle Dec 1 #80
The fact that currently, it's believed over 50% of white women voted for Trump somehow Wiz Imp Dec 1 #85
Deep thoughts from the "lumpenproletariat" sop Nov 30 #18
Marx was certainly right about them. JanMichael Nov 30 #20
When it comes to voting for Trump, "Fool me once, shame on Trump. Fool me twice ... the shame is now on all of us." El-Capitan Nov 30 #21
Shame on ALL of us? ShazzieB Nov 30 #29
I'm not going to argue the point with you. El-Capitan Nov 30 #34
Of course my agreement is not required! 😁 ShazzieB Nov 30 #53
Why were these "FREE MARKET" clowns harping about food prices? RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Nov 30 #24
Don't get me started on theatre concession stands. Montauk6 Nov 30 #40
The leopards are getting fat sakabatou Nov 30 #25
I expect a new specialty will be offered in veterinary schools: Ocelot II Nov 30 #28
THEY BETTER BE FLOSSING!!! Montauk6 Nov 30 #42
Whether or not those words are authentic, I'm more interested in why 8 million Democrats didn't vote for VP Harris 0rganism Nov 30 #27
We had four years to investigate the machine compromise. Hope22 Nov 30 #48
Excuses I'v seen the most: Mariah Carey-like "I don't know her" even though all they whine about is "change" betsuni Nov 30 #65
You bring up an interesting point. love_katz Dec 1 #79
"But I don't know enough about her policies!" NameAlreadyTaken Nov 30 #30
One half of Americans have an IQ of less than 100 Beck23 Nov 30 #31
Nicely done! chowder66 Nov 30 #32
So, maybe we can stop admonishing the dems and Harris, now? I think it's all excises for misogyny. lindysalsagal Nov 30 #33
No information voters Old Crank Nov 30 #37
Where did you find these folks? Smh. TBF Nov 30 #41
AOC did a quick online poll: DetlefK Dec 1 #69
Next couple questions.. Dave Id Nov 30 #43
Provide links, otherwise those quotes are not credible Auggie Nov 30 #44
Go to Youtube and search for "FAFO MAGA" or "FAFO Republicans" DetlefK Dec 1 #70
And here is the dilemma. Yes they are all morons. JanMichael Nov 30 #45
Yet none of them want to admit their racist sexist attitude! More of them than not, that was their first reason PortTack Nov 30 #46
No sympathy The Madcap Nov 30 #47
With all due respect, what stupid f*cks. Joinfortmill Nov 30 #49
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate. Evolve Dammit Nov 30 #50
It all boils down to Self over Country. aeromanKC Nov 30 #52
Your source? MineralMan Nov 30 #54
Go to Youtube or Tiktok and search for "FAFO MAGA" DetlefK Dec 1 #71
Go Watch, "The Great Hack" MrWowWow Nov 30 #55
When were you in Lubbock? czarjak Nov 30 #57
The country appears too stupid to exist stollen Nov 30 #59
This is from The Onion - am I right? FakeNoose Nov 30 #60
Sadly, they are real. Paraphrased but real. DetlefK Dec 1 #73
Ive seen a lot of the " he will deport the bad immigrants, not me, im a good immigrant" Demovictory9 Nov 30 #61
Instead of voter ID... pandr32 Nov 30 #62
Prison Patton French Dec 1 #72
Whether these are real or not Meowmee Dec 1 #74
Then there is my high school graduate 30 yo woodsprite Dec 1 #77
I see stupid people. How do we combat stupidity? Emile Dec 1 #83
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