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RockRaven

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8. If TCF is going to abuse people with a corrupted DOJ/FBI then a pardon won't

Reply to FakeNoose (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2024, 01:27 PM

Dec 2

prevent any of that but the last step, the trial. If the DOJ/FBI really are going to be corrupted and politicized then they will still engage in unjustified investigations, leaks and smears, demand documents and interviews, cause massive legal expenses, etc.

The pardon only becomes specifically useful once they land in a courtroom. Everything which the DOJ/FBI does up to that point they can also do to a person who has been pardoned, under the guise that they have useful information about other peoples' crimes.

Pardons aren't a magical blanket protection from the DOJ/FBI -- not without norms and procedures to make them so, and norms and procedures can be changed.

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Before Biden leaves office he must "pardon" Jack Smith [View all] FakeNoose Dec 2 OP

Also Fauci and a bunch of others JohnSJ Dec 2 #1

If Gaetz were AG, he would definitely prosecute Fauci. sop Dec 2 #4

I wonder what Fauci's "offense" would be FakeNoose Dec 2 #5

Making Matt (and Jordan) look like a complete asshole during those congressional hearings. sop Dec 2 #6

Tho it wrote a hate book about Dr. Fauci which caused him to have to get JohnSJ Dec 2 #9

facts Nikki28 Dec 2 #2

He should pardon everybody on Trump's enemies list. Ocelot II Dec 2 #3

Yep. Go Joe!! kerry-is-my-prez Dec 2 #17

At a minimum Biden should pardon everyone on the impeachment teams, the J6 committee, and the criminal cases dalton99a Dec 2 #7

Agree. Especially all those listed on the SC teams in the ancianita Dec 2 #14

If TCF is going to abuse people with a corrupted DOJ/FBI then a pardon won't RockRaven Dec 2 #8

Biden should arm every Democrat and Democrat leaning person before he leaves office. hadEnuf Dec 2 #10

I don't think a pre-emptive pardon is a thing Diraven Dec 2 #11

Jack Smith is a sitting target - his entire family is being threatened FakeNoose Dec 2 #12

It probably osn't a thing under the Constitution, soldierant Dec 2 #13

Ford did it for Nixon Rstrstx Dec 2 #15

Kind of Diraven Dec 2 #16

It isn't necessary for there to be charges first. Ocelot II Dec 2 #18

Thanks for Rebl2 Dec 2 #19

Just because Ford wrote that in the pardon Diraven Dec 3 #20

A pardon carries with it the acknowledgment that the recipient committed a crime Martin Eden Dec 3 #21

Not anymore. Not under a trump regime. Paladin Dec 3 #22

In politics, perception is reality Martin Eden Dec 3 #23