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Ms. Toad

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69. It was a necessary evil. Just because it was necessary does not diminish its nature.

Reply to BlueCheeseAgain (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2024, 11:18 PM

Dec 2

The prosecution of Biden was politically motivated. Had his father not been president, he wouldn't have been prosecuted (or would have been prosecuted for more minimal crimes). But there are people in prison who were prosecuted (or found guilty) for no reason but race, inability to hire competent counsel, etc. Had the prosecution/conviction simply been unfair, the pardon would not have been necessary - especially such a sweeping pardon that is nearly unprecedented.

A pre-emptive pardon, which gives Hunter (or anyone) immunity for all violations of federal law for a certain period of time is no better than the presidential immunity the Supreme Court granted.

But Trump was elected, and has an enemies list. Hunter is on it simply because of who his father is. Not only would he be in prison for the crimes for which he was already convicted, but Trump would not have stopped there. These are not normal times. Had Harris been elected, I would be on the anti-pardon bandwagon. But she was not - and Biden is right to protect anyone he can (especially anyone not overtly political, including his son) from political retribution by Trump and his goons.

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I'm not celebrating the Hunter Biden pardon. [View all] BlueCheeseAgain Dec 2 OP

It's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't with President Biden. Deuxcents Dec 2 #1

Well said. Lulu KC Dec 2 #3

Any parent who wouldn't Dem4life1234 Dec 2 #14

JoeB gave EVERYTHING he had to this country for a loooong time - I applaud his decision. If it had been NoMoreRepugs Dec 2 #2

Just call me Pro Life BOSSHOG Dec 2 #4

They've already said that and worse. For years now. BannonsLiver Dec 2 #5

So, you'd have preferred that Hunter BIden Bettie Dec 2 #6

That's not what I said, at all. BlueCheeseAgain Dec 2 #8

Spit on the party? Lunabell Dec 2 #17

What are you talking about? Dem4life1234 Dec 2 #19

That is exactly what you said, because Hunter would have died in prison. Every signal from Trump said that. Hekate Dec 2 #23

I will never forgot their disrespect of this great man Dem4life1234 Dec 2 #18

I feel this XanaDUer2 Dec 2 #38

" he was driven out by a "donors" no, he was driven out by his performance. DontBelieveEastisEas Dec 2 #58

Ate you talking about President Biden's performance? niyad Dec 2 #63

There are a LOT of people that are going to die in prison Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2 #66

You said so well SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2 #7

A president who bragged he can kill a man on 5th Ave delisen Dec 2 #12

You're entitled to your opinion SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2 #30

Suit yourself. I am delighted that Biden pardoned Hunter. wnylib Dec 2 #61

You forgot to add that he and his brother were both seriously injured niyad Dec 2 #62

I am truly sorry for whatever trauma you have gone through that makes niyad Dec 2 #67

I like that its pissing off the magats Blues Heron Dec 2 #9

Don't worry. It will be short lived when the J-6 jimfields33 Dec 2 #42

got that right! Blues Heron Dec 2 #47

I don't "celebrate" it. He did the right thing. LeftInTX Dec 2 #10

If Hunter was not kacekwl Dec 2 #11

I think the reaction by some has been rather silly, but I don't see any problem with Biden taking this action tritsofme Dec 2 #13

The screeching of Trump and his minions over this pardon The Unmitigated Gall Dec 2 #35

I don't really have a problem with the pardon (although I don't like "blanket pardons"), but I can't applaud Biden for Midwestern Democrat Dec 3 #75

Your concern is noted. Basso8vb Dec 2 #15

Hunter was over prosecuted because he was President Biden's son Quiet Em Dec 2 #16

Yes! And how many people do we hear about that had guns in their possession, when they shouldn't? I don't hear SWBTATTReg Dec 2 #32

Would he have been investigated KT2000 Dec 2 #20

This! Dem4life1234 Dec 2 #22

Well, that certainly is your opinion. Lunabell Dec 2 #21

Having principles means calling yourself out. Frasier Balzov Dec 2 #24

lol Of Course not. Cha Dec 2 #25

Wow, you seemed to have gone out of your way to create talking points. Think. Again. Dec 2 #26

Republican Underground maybe? SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2 #28

Free Republic is dead??? Montauk6 Dec 2 #51

It's like of all the things to whine about Dem4life1234 Dec 2 #29

Really!!! Some people I guess don't have enough on their plate to chat about, being that the big thing now is SWBTATTReg Dec 2 #34

Thanks. Your concern is noted. VegasVet Dec 2 #27

Good to know. I won't invite you to my party. Scrivener7 Dec 2 #31

Joe took the high road until they dug a ditch Joinfortmill Dec 2 #33

Your points are valid but Opbrg Dec 2 #36

I disagree, a lot of the talking points are absolutely not valid. Think. Again. Dec 2 #40

I expected Hunter to be pardoned MichMan Dec 2 #37

Are you kidding? appmanga Dec 2 #39

Pardon power can be used to right wrongs Shermann Dec 2 #41

It wasn't the justice system that persecuted Hunter beyond any reasonable... Think. Again. Dec 2 #45

"Look, they're all the same." Paladin Dec 2 #43

Mahalo, Paladin. Cha Dec 3 #73

Many thanks, Cha. (nt) Paladin Dec 3 #74

What is important about this? Cirsium Dec 2 #44

If Biden pardons everyone, then he will be pardoning LeftInTX Dec 2 #55

They already do JustAnotherGen Dec 2 #46

I'll celebrate for you. mzmolly Dec 2 #48

And I'll celebrate with you! Think. Again. Dec 2 #52

:D mzmolly Dec 2 #54

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It was only necessary because the American people sent the Felon Rapist back to the WH. RandomNumbers Dec 2 #53

The voters forced his hand by electing a rapist and felon. Kind of like they forced Biden out because they don't pay chowder66 Dec 2 #56

Stop Being Weak Quanta Dec 2 #57

Maybe it is because of the extreme appointments. nt DontBelieveEastisEas Dec 2 #59

I can't speak for anyone else, but it's not a "celebration" for me. It's correcting a wrong ecstatic Dec 2 #60

I am glad he did it Meowmee Dec 2 #64

Because "the Reps got owned" just like they delight in "Owning" us kerry-is-my-prez Dec 2 #65

I will applaud and celebrate this decision. lees1975 Dec 2 #68

It was a necessary evil. Just because it was necessary does not diminish its nature. Ms. Toad Dec 2 #69

I am. GoodRaisin Dec 2 #70

Six months ago after a bad debate, Biden was a Hassler Dec 3 #71

Oh boy, ForgedCrank Dec 3 #72

Just imagine Hunter at the mercy of MAGA-loving prison guards. RandySF Dec 3 #76

Oh, Lordy claudette Dec 3 #77

I'm celebrating it because a democrat stop playing gentlemanly politics for a brief moment. Hotler Dec 3 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author claudette Dec 3 #79

im behind Joes decision 1000% samnsara Dec 3 #80