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ancianita

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33. No matter how deeply or long you hate, they're not going away. And hate eats the soul of the hater.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 11:51 PM
Dec 3

In a kind of self defense, I decided last year to go out and learn who my neighbors were. I'd heard for years that this Florida community is Christian, so I took up a casual invitation to attend a bible study group, just to see if they're real or fake. What I've learned is that when or if they think about politics through the lens of christianity, it's complicated. Not for me, of course, but for them.

They can't spiritually discipline themselves from constantly thinking of God as backing the powerful and wealthy humans, even though they have read their bible and know better, that most of the Old and absolutely all of the New Testament say the opposite. They are believers who have to learn the hard way.

Then there are power and Mammon worshippers, whether they're amoral or moral, middle class or impoverished. They also have to learn the hard way, while they drag everyone else down 'til they hit bottom.

Both groups seem insufferable. I get it.
But as fellow Americans, we can't just slowly end up being like those we fight, those who "other" anyone not like them. Be always careful that as we fight who we see as monsters, that we don't become monsters ourselves. "A taste of their own medicine" mentality is a slippery slope mentality.

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Well said. RockRaven Dec 3 #1
My favorite coffee mug these days: lastlib Dec 3 #2
You know what that's a great idea! FirstLight Dec 3 #6
Be careful out there! electric_blue68 Dec 3 #10
I am pretty lucky that I live in Northern California FirstLight Dec 3 #13
Ah, got it. I live in NYC, and not in the major drumphf loving areas which aren't that many thank goodness! electric_blue68 Dec 3 #22
Also in Northern California but rural, surprised by how many are Trumpers. PufPuf23 Dec 3 #24
Wow. Amazing woman! FirstLight Dec 3 #32
Huge influence on me via Eric and the times and places and being exposed to new ideas. PufPuf23 Dec 4 #41
No time like the present to get back into shape. The Unmitigated Gall Dec 3 #36
... Celerity Dec 4 #54
Clever, but I would not pay for or have anything with his name on it. TNNurse Dec 4 #65
I like it but NSFW. TomSlick Dec 4 #96
to find out that SO many people find value in that vile, SICK POS Skittles Dec 3 #3
Many people have learned to demonize the Democratic Party by design. PufPuf23 Dec 3 #7
a Trump voting neighbor is still hoping for student loan relief Skittles Dec 3 #19
I read a 2025 person saying no relief, just the opposite Dave says Dec 4 #93
Since 2016, and even before that, the GOP has been designed to attract a certain... type. Initech Dec 3 #30
I hear that Skittles Dec 3 #35
Same. Initech Dec 4 #37
he is a fucking idiot Skittles Dec 4 #38
Yeah his industry will definitely be hurt big time by RFK Jr's bullshit. Initech Dec 4 #40
Actually someone here explained that NJCher Dec 4 #43
This makes a lot of sense FakeNoose Dec 4 #87
He is a double cultist. They are the worst. SamKnause Dec 4 #55
Amen to that Meowmee Dec 3 #4
It's not just that he has free reign, it's that he has one party rule on top of that. Initech Dec 3 #34
Yes that is what I meant, I am well aware of all of this- free to do whatever he wants with a corrupt party and sc Meowmee Dec 4 #42
+a million! FirstLight Dec 3 #5
I agree with absolutely every word. FalloutShelter Dec 3 #8
I said he was toast back in 2016 with the McCain comment. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 3 #9
I keep a small circle too - TBF Dec 3 #11
We had to cut off both sides and a daughter. onecaliberal Dec 3 #16
Same. So much... onecaliberal Dec 3 #12
I will happily help hold that jackhammer, LC . love_katz Dec 3 #14
DUZy FirstLight Dec 3 #17
Why, thank you, FL. love_katz Dec 3 #20
It's ergonomic! JoseBalow Dec 3 #26
I couldn't like your post enough ! kimbutgar Dec 3 #15
You bdamomma Dec 3 #18
It really is disappointing to accept there are so many vile, hateful rubes. Silent Type Dec 3 #21
Seconded without comment. n/t Hugin Dec 3 #23
49% of voters out there endorse the lying traitor. Hassler Dec 3 #25
Actually it's 31% NJCher Dec 4 #49
I thought I was clear that it was 49% of Voters, not all voters Hassler Dec 4 #50
Why you can't make that assumption. NJCher Dec 4 #58
I'm fortunate to live in a town that voted 80 percent for Harris. greatauntoftriplets Dec 3 #27
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 3 #28
I sometimes wonder if he gets away with these million things because ... Alice B. Dec 3 #29
Well yes. H2O Man Dec 3 #31
No matter how deeply or long you hate, they're not going away. And hate eats the soul of the hater. ancianita Dec 3 #33
"we can't just slowly end up being like those we fight" thebigidea Dec 4 #53
Fair point. I realize the saying isn't perfect. ancianita Dec 4 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 4 #39
I'm with you Give Peace A Chance Dec 4 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 4 #98
He sas not "elected" the first time. czarjak Dec 4 #44
Agree 100% KT2000 Dec 4 #45
LuckyCharms JDAcme Dec 4 #46
he is an absolute VILE POS Skittles Dec 4 #47
Post removed Post removed Dec 4 #48
Your every word resonates with me. 3catwoman3 Dec 4 #51
So many things should have ended his political career but that ranks #1 with me too. LoisB Dec 4 #52
The power of the Magic R allows you to get away everything. Emile Dec 4 #56
Luckycharms - we had a Vulkan mind meld Pachamama Dec 4 #57
Right There With You RobinA Dec 4 #59
Thank you. mountain grammy Dec 4 #60
I know it's hard not to stereotype white people, particularly older ones morillon Dec 4 #61
So I walk into the Volly House (VFD) Historic NY Dec 4 #62
Thank you, Lucky Charms, for putting into word so well, how I feel. Fla Dem Dec 4 #64
Same here. There's a constant underlying feeling of dread I can't shake, Timeflyer Dec 4 #66
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Yes, I'm absolutely fucking serious. LuckyCharms Dec 4 #68
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Why do you ask? LuckyCharms Dec 4 #74
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 4 #82
I have never turned "more neutral" about Bush. LuckyCharms Dec 4 #83
Well, good morning! GP6971 Dec 4 #80
That was righteous. Ruby the Liberal Dec 4 #69
I know how you feel. Linda ladeewolf Dec 4 #70
I feel seen... Dennis Donovan Dec 4 #71
Unfortunately social media amplifies the worst of us dlk Dec 4 #72
Never EVER doubt that you and your views have a huge amount of company. Paladin Dec 4 #75
I can't reconcile it either underpants Dec 4 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author Upthevibe Dec 4 #77
He's thug and a bully elliesmandt Dec 4 #78
The worst part is I know exactly who and what they are. marble falls Dec 4 #79
It does make you wonder about people you live around or see Beringia Dec 4 #81
I have relatives who voted for him all 3 times he ran for president. patphil Dec 4 #84
That about sums it up for me. I have lost all faith in our people. NNadir Dec 4 #85
Oh yes, the mocking of journalist Serge Kovaleski Niagara Dec 4 #86
I'm grateful to live in a blue state, The Wandering Harper Dec 4 #88
It's terrible. Elessar Zappa Dec 4 #89
My 2 nephews voted for him- they are 29 and 26 Danmel Dec 4 #90
Yup. A lot of people just plain suck. Joinfortmill Dec 4 #92
PTSD The Wizard Dec 4 #94
What's an old man to do? Magoo48 Dec 4 #95
The division has been very effective. 40 years of Rush and Fox News told people who to hate. Evolve Dammit Dec 4 #97
Kick JustAnotherGen Dec 5 #99
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