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MadameButterfly

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8. yeah but back then Virginia was red and now its purple/blue

Reply to In It to Win It (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2024, 04:19 PM

Dec 2024

Georgia and Arizona were red, now they are purple. NC is in play. States have always changed over time. Bill Clinton and Al Gore came from states that would never elect a statewide Democrat again. But NC has had 2 Democratic governors.

We still get half the votes. The problem is that the current distribution of blue and red favors Republicans in the electoral college and the senate, which it didn't always.

The difference now is Republicans cheat (voter suppression, gerrymandering, etc.) and RW media slanders and lies.
Without those, they wouldn't even be in the running.

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I Watched the Democratic Collapse in Florida. I Fear It's Happening Nationally. [View all] In It to Win It Dec 2024 OP

I would think it seems globally as well. nt woodsprite Dec 2024 #1

RSO rso Dec 2024 #2

You can count on it that they are going to try. JohnSJ Dec 2024 #3

Money is speech. War is peace. 2+2 IS 5. Moostache Dec 2024 #4

you awe singing my song, my and my gospel. And you are so correct about the phones msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #16

I think the CIA/FBI need to up their game. travelingthrulife Dec 2024 #23

It appears to be happening worldwide. ananda Dec 2024 #5

A nice start might be if the Party starts listening to its own voters... PeaceWave Dec 2024 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #11

Listening to all its voters Retrograde Dec 2024 #14

Oh bullshit. W_HAMILTON Dec 2024 #20

What you are talking about is not the base. In fact they are the total opposite JI7 Dec 2024 #22

There would have been no democratic collapse in Florida speak easy Dec 2024 #7

yeah but back then Virginia was red and now its purple/blue MadameButterfly Dec 2024 #8

I think this is a deep part of the problem Dave says Dec 2024 #15

True Viginia has become a blue/purple State standingtall Dec 2024 #17

Basically, we have to stop losing working class men MadameButterfly Dec 2024 #18

Agree with most of this standingtall Dec 2024 #9

Well, for Oklahoma, the Democratic Party was competitive in the 2000s in state government In It to Win It Dec 2024 #10

Gosh, I wonder which party benfits from a multi-spectrum 24/7/365 propaganda apparatus... JHB Dec 2024 #12

Democrats Can Survive Dlpger61 Dec 2024 #13

they are 2 down in the House. Did great in NC etc etc. Let's not do this. themaguffin Dec 2024 #19

Florida became more red becsuse A LOT of Republicans from other states JI7 Dec 2024 #21

The red shift in Florida began with the Mariel boatlift. DavidDvorkin Dec 2024 #24