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Bo Zarts

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12. Patient stays "under" during the surgery .. the "pain" comes afterward.

Wed Dec 4, 2024, 05:26 PM

Dec 4

It reminds me of a Mad Magazine cartoon back in the late '50s or early '60s. The docs are all gathered around the patient's bed, and the poor guy has a horrible look of pain on his face. In his hands is the bill for the services rendered. The caption of the cartoon was "The Presenting of the Bill."

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Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Won't Pay for the Complete Duration of Anesthesia for Patients' Surgical Procedures [View all] Nevilledog Dec 4 OP

and people will still wonder why he was shot. Not me. ZonkerHarris Dec 4 #1

United Healthcare denied more claims than any other insurer according to a chart I just saw on DU. OMGWTF Dec 4 #2

United denied my c section back in 2000 xmas74 Dec 5 #49

Did you contest it? soandso Dec 5 #54

Yes, i did. xmas74 Dec 5 #66

What a bummer soandso Dec 5 #86

I had a similar situation in 2007 - UH didn't want to pay for the surgeon TBF Dec 5 #65

Happened to me. ChazInAz Dec 5 #75

I have a friend that works there Demobrat Dec 4 #15

Good lord - TBF Dec 4 #31

In any murder soandso Dec 5 #41

I suppose so - TBF Dec 5 #64

And it turns out you're right soandso Dec 5 #85

Ah, interesting that they lived apart - TBF Dec 5 #90

When he was killed, yesterday soandso Dec 5 #92

I gotta admit - it will tickle me if the shooter is a person whose claim was disavowed. 3Hotdogs Dec 4 #29

General sentiment about this murder (not just on DU) is leaning toward possible allegorical oracle Dec 5 #81

Literally the only surprising thing about that entire incident was that it took this long for something like it to Karasu Dec 5 #48

I've been wondering TommyT139 Dec 5 #53

That's what I thought - Nigrum Cattus Dec 5 #84

We allow our lawmakers to allow this to be a USA reality. Passages Dec 4 #3

I predict more healthcare CEO shootings. n/t Coventina Dec 4 #4

I'm against both the death penalty and markodochartaigh Dec 4 #25

It would be a monumental sign of protest. Omnipresent Dec 5 #76

What does this mean ? The patient,... magicarpet Dec 4 #5

Patient stays "under" during the surgery .. the "pain" comes afterward. Bo Zarts Dec 4 #12

Mad magazine was great back then. enigmania Dec 4 #23

Sure was! I looked forward to every issue. calimary Dec 5 #40

Would that have been "another ridiculous MAD fold-in"? Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 5 #58

It means the anesthesiologist does their job Demobrat Dec 4 #16

Actually, a lot of brain surgery is done w/o anesthesia soandso Dec 5 #42

True dat. colorado_ufo Dec 5 #82

In the 1970s my dad needed a heart valve. Estimated time of surgery: 3 to 4 hours. Actual time: 12 hours Hekate Dec 4 #6

And if mine takes only 2 hours, they will pay me? nilram Dec 4 #19

Excellent point! soandso Dec 5 #43

This sounds essentially like the way original Medicare pays for hospital stays and bundled care. Silent Type Dec 4 #7

Interesting soandso Dec 5 #44

Believe it or not, when Medicare first started, docs and hospitals were paid whatever they charged. Medicare learned Silent Type Dec 5 #69

That's the same that drove tuitions soandso Dec 5 #89

Surgeons will only take easy cases that can be done quickly. Irish_Dem Dec 4 #8

Destroy insurance companies lonely bird Dec 4 #9

Appalling. Joinfortmill Dec 4 #10

We have a for-profit healthcare system. The only thing that matters is profits. Lonestarblue Dec 4 #11

The US does not have a health care system. markodochartaigh Dec 4 #24

Hey, I've got a great idea . . . NBachers Dec 4 #13

This is as much violence as someone shooting someone on the street. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 4 #14

More. This CEO died instantly. Demobrat Dec 4 #17

Only the beginning... orwell Dec 4 #18

If anyone hasn't seen it, I recommend the movie Sicko DeeDeeNY Dec 4 #20

O. M. G. !!! calimary Dec 4 #21

I confess to enigmania Dec 4 #22

Years ago, my wife had surgery and had been in the hospital for a few days. 70sEraVet Dec 4 #26

A wallet-biopsy is required before services can be rendered Seinan Sensei Dec 5 #63

There could soon be another dead health care exec. RandySF Dec 4 #27

Universal Healthcare! Joe Nation Dec 4 #28

WTAF????? SheltieLover Dec 4 #30

How many here remember when Blue Cross/ Blue Shield (later "Anthem") was NON-PROFIT? I do. Evolve Dammit Dec 4 #32

Blue Shield still is. According to them. Demobrat Dec 4 #34

Interesting. Wonder if they "spun off" as their own entity? Evolve Dammit Dec 5 #71

Depends on the state. Here in CA Demobrat Dec 5 #72

60 minutes should do a piece on this. We the consumers have no f'in idea. Evolve Dammit Dec 5 #73

Blue Cross Blue Shield is a nonprofit federation of companies IronLionZion Dec 5 #80

Interesting. Still Anthem in northeast and they suck. Had a big data breech in addition to crappy coverage and service. Evolve Dammit Dec 5 #88

More reason to avoid Medicare "DISadvantage". NGeorgian Dec 4 #33

glad my plan is based in Michigan MistakenLamb Dec 4 #35

I have Anthem Blue Cross/Blue Shield. Jeebo Dec 4 #36

Same xmas74 Dec 5 #47

Health insurance in the USA is a financial scam. PufPuf23 Dec 4 #37

DURec leftstreet Dec 4 #38

This is horrible! orion9941 Dec 4 #39

OMG soandso Dec 5 #45

That's frightening. xmas74 Dec 5 #46

There's a reason that CEO was shot RainCaster Dec 5 #50

And the worst administration in the history of the U.S. will be looking into this come Jan. 20th. C Moon Dec 5 #51

I thought of the logical response pfitz59 Dec 5 #52

scary and insane BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 5 #55

This is further reason to dump Advantage if you have it soandso Dec 5 #56

Great. :/ That's who we are insured through. C Moon Dec 5 #57

Looks like it just those three states soandso Dec 5 #59

Several years ago during a colonoscopy moniss Dec 5 #60

Emblematic of what's to come from corporate America with the lawless SlobFather in charge? NoMoreRepugs Dec 5 #61

Anesthesiologists used to bill seperately from the surgery.. Historic NY Dec 5 #62

The issue is likely a bit more complex than just evil insurance companies. Ms. Toad Dec 5 #67

Unconscionable. Martin68 Dec 5 #68

As someone who once woke up on the operating table, this is horrific! Pacifist Patriot Dec 5 #70

WAKE UP! we haven't completed the surgery but your knock out time has expired. sorry. orleans Dec 5 #74

May not be limited to just Anthem bmichaelh Dec 5 #77

"Kill a man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror." -- Jean Rostand Passages Dec 5 #78

Payment is the most painful part of the American healthcare system IronLionZion Dec 5 #79

So say you wake up and there's an hour to go on the abdominal surgery. Do they give you a bullet to bite on? Vinca Dec 5 #83

Like the old long-distance operator: "Please deposit Buns_of_Fire Dec 5 #87

Wakey, wakey! Do you have your credit card handy? keithbvadu2 Dec 5 #91

Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield calls off surgery anesthesia cap keithbvadu2 Dec 5 #93