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MadameButterfly

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18. Basically, we have to stop losing working class men
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:56 AM
Dec 2024

We used to have the Unions and lots of White working class men. Now they are overwhelmingly Trumpers. And we are losing men of color. The shift of Hispanics has been enormous and probably was the difference in this election. Disappointingly, we lost White women. So much for RoevWade making a difference. It's the economy, stupid.

The growing income gap, inflation, weakened unions, and RW media designed to dupe low educated voters is the problem. Dems have been moving to the middle white the Right moves right. We no longer address the needs of the working class because we are busy compromiszing, and the Right which never cared about workers just lies and sells them causes like abortion and trans to get them to vote against their economic interests so they don't have to actually solve problems to get votes.

We also have stopped having Democratic Congresses that were the norm for decades after FDR, even through Nixon and Reagan. Republicans have stopped compromising as Dems did with Republican presidents. So we are no longer able to get things through, like the much more comprehensive health care plan that Carter proposed (and in that case, Ted Kennedy helped tank). There was so much in Biden's proposed bills that got lost because of Manchin/Synema refusing to end the filibuster that would have helped people economically. Not that we would have been given credit by the media, but like SS and Obamacare, some things would have been in place that people would have become attached to.

The people are for what we are for, if we could only implement it. And we need to go further: single payer for example. we are still subsidizing the Insurance Industry in the name of moderation.

All this a moot point now. What we should have done. Now all we can hope is that it will all crash badly enough to get us out of this mess, and that there will be a way to recover.

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I would think it seems globally as well. nt woodsprite Dec 2024 #1
RSO rso Dec 2024 #2
You can count on it that they are going to try. JohnSJ Dec 2024 #3
Money is speech. War is peace. 2+2 IS 5. Moostache Dec 2024 #4
you awe singing my song, my and my gospel. And you are so correct about the phones msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #16
I think the CIA/FBI need to up their game. travelingthrulife Dec 2024 #23
It appears to be happening worldwide. ananda Dec 2024 #5
A nice start might be if the Party starts listening to its own voters... PeaceWave Dec 2024 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #11
Listening to all its voters Retrograde Dec 2024 #14
Oh bullshit. W_HAMILTON Dec 2024 #20
What you are talking about is not the base. In fact they are the total opposite JI7 Dec 2024 #22
There would have been no democratic collapse in Florida speak easy Dec 2024 #7
yeah but back then Virginia was red and now its purple/blue MadameButterfly Dec 2024 #8
I think this is a deep part of the problem Dave says Dec 2024 #15
True Viginia has become a blue/purple State standingtall Dec 2024 #17
Basically, we have to stop losing working class men MadameButterfly Dec 2024 #18
Agree with most of this standingtall Dec 2024 #9
Well, for Oklahoma, the Democratic Party was competitive in the 2000s in state government In It to Win It Dec 2024 #10
Gosh, I wonder which party benfits from a multi-spectrum 24/7/365 propaganda apparatus... JHB Dec 2024 #12
Democrats Can Survive Dlpger61 Dec 2024 #13
they are 2 down in the House. Did great in NC etc etc. Let's not do this. themaguffin Dec 2024 #19
Florida became more red becsuse A LOT of Republicans from other states JI7 Dec 2024 #21
The red shift in Florida began with the Mariel boatlift. DavidDvorkin Dec 2024 #24
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