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29. Fuckim!!

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Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:09 PM

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Murdered Insurance CEO Had Deployed an AI to Automatically Deny Benefits for Sick People [View all] Coventina Dec 5 OP

Error rate is a feature, not a bug dalton99a Dec 5 #1

Fortunately, a "90% error rate" does not mean 90% of care was denied. It means that of the 8% or so of claims/authorizat Silent Type Dec 5 #7

Are you saying that all that is okay with you? Am I misunderstanding? niyad Dec 5 #22

No, niyad, I'm saying doctors do cheat. HHS estimates $100 B a year on fraudulent and unneeded care, and that Silent Type Dec 5 #24

At a minimum? Very interesting, given what I have been reading. niyad Dec 6 #80

The fraud has been documented and addressed to some degree. Not as well as it should/could be. Passages Dec 6 #82

There is it Cirsium Dec 5 #25

Well try voter preferences for one. Silent Type Dec 5 #26

Easily resolved Cirsium Dec 5 #32

I agree, but it didn't work under Obama and it's even less likely to work now. If Obama had insisted ACA not use Silent Type Dec 5 #33

Obama did not try Cirsium Dec 5 #35

He didn't once it was obvious it wouldn't pass and might bring the whole ACA down. Silent Type Dec 5 #39

That's the story Cirsium Dec 5 #42

Chamber leaders can count likely votes. We are lucky McCain gave thumbs up for what we got. Silent Type Dec 5 #43

Yep Cirsium Dec 5 #44

Unfortunately, more true now than then. Silent Type Dec 5 #45

How about you? Cirsium Dec 5 #46

We got the best we could get and should be thankful for it and hope that some day in the future it's improved. Silent Type Dec 5 #48

Yes we should be so glad that our betters choie Dec 5 #52

So, how do you plan on pulling this off say in the next decade? Silent Type Dec 5 #53

I don't know, but certainly not sitting in our duffs choie Dec 5 #54

So, you think we can totally reform the healthcare system without leaders and the votes. Good luck. Silent Type Dec 5 #55

Do you realize what you are saying? Cirsium Dec 5 #65

Call up Democrats and get a bunch on board if you think you can, I'll support that. Silent Type Dec 6 #67

You seem almost pleased Cirsium Dec 6 #68

My point is that it's unlikely to happen nowadays, but if you figure out a viable way I will support it. Silent Type Dec 6 #69

I don't believe I said that. choie Dec 5 #66

It has been there Cirsium Dec 5 #61

So Gallop poll that show 53% do not want private insurers, even if under universal healthcare Silent Type Dec 5 #64

OK Cirsium Dec 5 #59

Voter preference elected trump choie Dec 5 #51

The American public has been brainwashed, period lonely bird Dec 6 #79

Like Medicare Advantage which is not Medicare but a privately owned insurance compay.. Historic NY Dec 6 #89

IMO, until Congress decides to provide similar "extra benefits" for original Medicare beneficiaries, we should not Silent Type Dec 6 #90

Why are they shooting the company ex .that sells Medicare Advantage if its so good. Historic NY Dec 6 #94

First off, the shooter looks too young for Medicare. Second, MA is the only potential Silent Type Dec 6 #95

I worked in a doctor's office, the insurance companies puts up all kinds of crazy hurdles AdamGG Dec 5 #34

I'm assuming you also dealt with Medicare coverage policies with crazy hurdles, especially Silent Type Dec 5 #40

I didn't work in billing AdamGG Dec 5 #41

I'm finding this pretty hard to understand MadameButterfly Dec 6 #71

Some. Started out working for a state's Medicaid agency in 1970s and have done similar work since, but not for Silent Type Dec 6 #91

DuRec leftstreet Dec 5 #2

FAFO gay texan Dec 5 #3

Those damn immigrant AIs taking all those jobs from Americans. Jit423 Dec 5 #4

Predatory Capitalism at it's finest, killing Americans. Emile Dec 5 #5

You have to control capitalism Farmer-Rick Dec 6 #78

No tears here either. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #6

I hear ya... I have more sympathy for all the insurees who got screwed, sick, or died under that prick's authority. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 5 #28

To Borrow from World History Channel on youtube rpannier Dec 5 #8

Worst mistake he ever made. miyazaki Dec 5 #9

The insurance industry is quickly... dchill Dec 5 #10

Why am I not surprised? We need national AI regulation and we need it fucking yesterday. Karasu Dec 5 #11

Every claim denied, was another buck in his pocket. Happy Hoosier Dec 5 #12

Not really true after the ACA EdmondDantes_ Dec 5 #60

All kinds of ways to cook the books Happy Hoosier Dec 5 #62

Is this the start of a French Revolution 2.0? Asking for a friend. NotHardly Dec 5 #13

I certainly hope not. That was a shitshow. Coventina Dec 5 #14

It was indeed a shitshow, but when the alternative is marching quietly into the night for unmitigated fascism... Karasu Dec 5 #18

Blue Cross Blue Shield reversed policy fast womanofthehills Dec 5 #57

It's a hopeless hope. HappyLarge Dec 6 #73

Here's hoping NickB79 Dec 5 #49

Roll out the guillotines!!! moondust Dec 5 #56

This is just BAD johnnyfins Dec 5 #15

has elon delivered his opinion as yet? onethatcares Dec 5 #16

Maybe he got shot by a hologram Prairie Gates Dec 5 #17

We might be at the point where people are so Klarkashton Dec 5 #19

That explains the words written on the bullet that killed him: "deny," "defend" and "depose" Liberty Belle Dec 5 #20

For profit healthcare? theplayer Dec 5 #21

Kansas decided the turn over their Foster Care to a for profit company, a while back... HappyLarge Dec 6 #74

This is alarming and needs some investigation? Merrick? Evolve Dammit Dec 5 #23

If there is a Hell, he's in it. nt SunSeeker Dec 5 #27

Fuckim!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 5 #29

So, he didn't even want to pay for quack doctors who couldn't make it practicing medicine to rubber stamp denied on case Attilatheblond Dec 5 #30

Social media is collect gems of responses soldierant Dec 5 #31

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! AZ8theist Dec 5 #63

Glad you liked it. soldierant Dec 6 #70

I'm not shedding any tears for this evil fatcat slightlv Dec 5 #36

These are sickening denial stats LetMyPeopleVote Dec 5 #37

Two questions about these stats. LAS14 Dec 6 #84

Humana was also found to be using nH Predict... ultralite001 Dec 5 #38

Dude got AI'd right back:Assassinated Intently RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 5 #47

AI is cancer Blue_Tires Dec 5 #50

Only if it's abused, otherwise the potential benefits outweigh the potential cons. cstanleytech Dec 6 #86

I've only ever seen evil and abusive applications of AI Blue_Tires Dec 6 #87

That's probably because AI is still in its infancy and it really has a long way to go before its true AI. cstanleytech Dec 6 #88

That's exactly what worries me 😐 Blue_Tires Dec 6 #92

Don't forget the insider trading probe.. raising2moredems Dec 5 #58

Thanks for pointing out the bogus claim of threats. John1956PA Dec 6 #76

He deserved it. Cne99999 Dec 6 #72

Two years ago, czarjak Dec 6 #75

I cried over John Lennon orangecrush Dec 6 #77

Interesting information. Martin68 Dec 6 #81

Well the 90% error rate was the feature Cthulu on call Dec 6 #83

I wonder if we should start a defense fund 🤔 cstanleytech Dec 6 #85

Well, isn't that swell! City Lights Dec 6 #93