General Discussion

Oneironaut

(5,810 posts)

10. A few things from what I understand

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:22 PM

Dec 5

These may be wrong, but, they're just possible facts and some opinions about the story I've seen.

1 - I don't think his gun jammed. He was using a B&T Station Six, aka "Welrod" gun that needs to (I believe) have the bolt manually cycled back and forward into place again to load the next round. Someone who knows more about guns can correct me on this.

2 - I would be shocked if this was a South American gang. Killing a high profile like this would be really risky for them. It's the same reason Mexican cartels try to avoid hurting Americans on US soil, and, avoid attracting too much attention.

3 - The "calmness" doesn't necessarily mean "professional." He seemed fumbly with the gun, and, let his face be captured on cameras. He ejected multiple unfired rounds (whether intentional or unintentional, not sure).

My personal opinion is that it's probably someone with a personal vendetta against either the CEO or United Healthcare - probably with mental illness as well.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

4 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Rebl2 drray23 blm Meowmee

77 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

The CEO shooter looks like he's between 18 and 24 years old [View all] Quiet Em Dec 5 OP

He doesn't look that young to me. LisaL Dec 5 #1

No? Quiet Em Dec 5 #2

He does to me, too soandso Dec 5 #13

I've always thought he was some type of radical. LeftInTX Dec 5 #20

Yeah, I don't think someone denied a claim soandso Dec 5 #23

Anti capitalist anarchist! Holy Jesus! Prairie Gates Dec 5 #33

If it's a group soandso Dec 5 #34

Someone on DU said that we should be armed and planning a coup against the Trump dictatorship. LeftInTX Dec 6 #40

" the guy who assassinated Pres McKinley was an anarchist." Prairie Gates Dec 6 #43

I think it's looking more and more like soandso Dec 7 #72

He skipped the hello part. Baitball Blogger Dec 7 #67

Here LeftInTX Dec 5 #19

I agree. Looks more 28-34 range. blm Dec 5 #30

Looks young to me and with an engaging smile. Polly Hennessey Dec 5 #35

hired cartel shooter... back in Sinaloa by now. WarGamer Dec 5 #3

Thats exactly what i thought too. drray23 Dec 5 #5

A few things from what I understand Oneironaut Dec 5 #10

Saw this posted somewhere soandso Dec 5 #15

My impression was a "silencer" suppressed gun using subsonic ammo (quieter)... EX500rider Dec 6 #51

I don't know anything about guns soandso Dec 7 #60

No, NYPD said 6'1 soandso Dec 5 #14

Yeah, that's not their thing. Not their problem..LOL LeftInTX Dec 5 #21

Unless Sinaloa Cartel is insured by United Health Care soandso Dec 5 #24

LOL! LeftInTX Dec 5 #25

I'll bet they wouldn't deny their claims soandso Dec 5 #27

Why would a professional etch into the shell casings? misanthrope Dec 5 #6

directed by the client WarGamer Dec 5 #7

I've been wondering the same. yardwork Dec 5 #11

A person bankrupted by denied medical claims doesn't have money to hire a killer. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 5 #28

An estranged wife might. n/t Liberal In Texas Dec 6 #55

If professional, the person hiring might want to make a point. haele Dec 5 #8

Depose: to remove from a throne or other high position mzmolly Dec 5 #31

Maybe to throw people off trail ? drray23 Dec 5 #12

Misdirection Kaleva Dec 6 #50

You're just being droll, right? dpibel Dec 5 #16

my theory is sensible. WarGamer Dec 5 #17

I have this recollection of some people really hating speculation dpibel Dec 5 #18

Yeah, I mean cartels usually go out of their way NOT to kill American tourists in Mexico... LoveSucky Dec 5 #26

What do you know that these jokers don't? dpibel Dec 6 #47

A person bankrupted by denied medical claims doesn't have money to hire a killer. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 5 #29

The pictures from the hostel do look young, but I'd say 22-27 Prairie Gates Dec 5 #4

Interesting... Mike Nelson Dec 5 #9

He come from Atlanta to NYC via Greyhound bus on Nov 24th. LeftInTX Dec 5 #22

He did appear to be flirting in the toothy smile pic. mzmolly Dec 5 #32

Yeah, wouldn't that be something? soandso Dec 6 #38

Girl working around a masked man feels uneasy, flirts a little to determine normalcy... lostnfound Dec 6 #41

I don't think it's a mask soandso Dec 6 #42

LOL mzmolly Dec 6 #46

Doubt that a pro would've been hanging around a hostel flirting with the allegorical oracle Dec 6 #53

Exactly soandso Dec 7 #58

Process of elimination. Close family first, then friends, then UHC employees or belligerent customers. allegorical oracle Dec 7 #66

Or hacking soandso Dec 7 #70

The shooter knew Thompson would be at that spot at that time. yardwork Dec 7 #68

Yep. Have to hand it to this guy-- he seems to have really planned it out. Even DNA isn't useful allegorical oracle Dec 7 #69

All pertinent questions soandso Dec 7 #71

The shooting video ran again this a.m. A red SUV had its back-up lights on, allegorical oracle Dec 7 #73

I thought the police released video of the shooter arriving shortly beforehand. yardwork Dec 7 #74

Not really soandso Dec 7 #75

Check out this article. yardwork Dec 7 #77

Oh, that's interesting soandso Dec 6 #36

CNN tonight LeftInTX Dec 6 #37

Thanks! soandso Dec 6 #39

Paid everything cash Prairie Gates Dec 6 #45

Since anybody could have grabbed the ebike soandso Dec 6 #48

It's amazing that they haven't publicly named the guy Prairie Gates Dec 6 #49

It's all very intriguing soandso Dec 6 #54

Why didn't he weight down the backpack and misanthrope Dec 7 #62

Well, that backpack we're being shown soandso Dec 7 #64

Do buslines like Greyhound require ID to board like airlines do? Mark.b2 Dec 6 #56

No LeftInTX Dec 6 #57

He's a young, good-looking guy and that flirting will probably take him down. Vinca Dec 6 #44

too young to run for president PedroXimenez Dec 6 #52

His expression is like, not really that empathetic to any victims (non-covered or whomever) UTUSN Dec 7 #59

no shit Skittles Dec 7 #61

The first photos of the shooter at the scene Meowmee Dec 7 #63

Has anyone considered... Dulcinea Dec 7 #65

Alexander built his empire in his 20s. LuvLoogie Dec 7 #76