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derby378

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84. Then why is violent crime down - AGAIN - in Dallas?

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 06:11 PM

Jan 2012

With all of our gun shows and concealed-carry permits, you'd think we'd have levelled the city by now. But no, we found a way to make it work without sacrificing our Second Amendment rights. Who knew?

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Robber killed in SC Waffle House shooting by customer [View all] Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 OP

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. nt TheWraith Jan 2012 #1

Don't rob stores with customers in concealed carry states Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #2

Close to 800,000 Floridians have concealed weapons permits... spin Jan 2012 #11

"Wise criminals who rob and pillage .. practice their profession in cities like New York or Chicago" marmar Jan 2012 #31

right?! fascisthunter Jan 2012 #32

Then why is violent crime down - AGAIN - in Dallas? derby378 Jan 2012 #84

Are you annoyed because he left out Washington DC? ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #79

That's a load of bullshit Renew Deal Jan 2012 #61

Recs? Blacksheep214 Jan 2012 #3

Exactly. marmar Jan 2012 #4

you got it.... fascisthunter Jan 2012 #33

A house built out of Waffles? itsrobert Jan 2012 #5

Even money the robber was a tweaker. Archae Jan 2012 #6

Or, just a thug. Zax2me Jan 2012 #25

Was there any chance that it could have gone the other way? rfranklin Jan 2012 #7

There was a chance it could have gone a lot of ways, which would you prefer The Straight Story Jan 2012 #9

I prefer the way in which no one is shot and killed - be it employee, customer or robber. LonePirate Jan 2012 #28

Who wouldn't? Lizzie Poppet Jan 2012 #59

Generally someone with a concealed carry permit is well trained and has spent a lot of time on the Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #10

But holding your gun sideways looks so cool... spin Jan 2012 #13

There is that :). nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #15

I'm calling BS MattBaggins Jan 2012 #37

Check out CCW requirements. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #38

I'm fully aware of CC equirements MattBaggins Jan 2012 #42

Unverifiable assertions do not make Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #55

That is how it works in some states, like California. oneshooter Jan 2012 #56

I have taken and passed and got my CCW safeinOhio Jan 2012 #65

Come to Upstate New York MattBaggins Jan 2012 #69

Hazzard County sounds nice. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #93

the hubs and I have our concealed carry demtenjeep Jan 2012 #48

generally I think you are mistaken onethatcares Jan 2012 #76

Yes, but getting a CCW generally means you like to shoot. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #92

Anyone stupid nough to rob customers in a restaurant, should be confronted by Samuel L jackson and WingDinger Jan 2012 #8

Or if the robber is Samuel L Jackson WonderGrunion Jan 2012 #21

"I will be forced to thrash you." marmar Jan 2012 #23

Thus making robbery a capital crime Warpy Jan 2012 #12

At what point does he become a threat? JSnuffy Jan 2012 #16

I agree. He should have waited until after the robber killed or at least wounded someone. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #17

Having a gun pointed at you is a MORTAL threat. TheWraith Jan 2012 #18

While you make a valid point... spin Jan 2012 #19

Knowing you, I think you meant "are not" looking to blow someone away. Logical Jan 2012 #27

Thanks much. Post edited. (n/t) spin Jan 2012 #45

What Logical said... krispos42 Jan 2012 #43

I should proof read more carefully before hitting post. (n/t) spin Jan 2012 #46

"and having a gun waved at them isn't necessarily that big a threat" EX500rider Jan 2012 #20

I had a park ranger point a revolver at me through a car window. geckosfeet Jan 2012 #35

How could you have shot him if you were unarmed? With your finger gun? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #51

Depends on the circumstances. PavePusher Jan 2012 #66

I had a park ranger EX500rider Jan 2012 #82

The CCW guy was not an impartial, uninvolved observer. krispos42 Jan 2012 #22

Why wasn't the robber shot in the leg to take him down? LonePirate Jan 2012 #30

This was a real life situation pintobean Jan 2012 #36

Shooting people in the hand or leg is Hollywood / TV crap MicaelS Jan 2012 #39

And why didn't the customer shoot the gun out of the robber's hand? Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #40

Because that'd woudn't be a smart thing to do. krispos42 Jan 2012 #41

You are not taught to shoot to wound. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 #47

Yup, aim COM and shoot until the thread is gone obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #53

You are NOT taught to "shoot to kill"!! You are taught to oneshooter Jan 2012 #57

You are right. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 #63

Have you ever heard of the femoral artery? ... spin Jan 2012 #50

Aww damn, you beat me to it. PavePusher Jan 2012 #68

You are trained in CCW clases to not do that obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #52

Two words: "Femoral Artery". You can look this stuff up..... PavePusher Jan 2012 #67

"The instinct to protect oneself is often muddled by a thirst to kill" ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #86

Havaing a gun waived at you isn't necessarily that big a threat?! Zax2me Jan 2012 #24

LOL......tell that to the people killed in armed robbery's every year. Get a clue! Logical Jan 2012 #26

The cited article was clear the perp was shot after he pointed the weapon...clear endangerment ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #29

Immediate threat of bodly harm or death obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #54

THANK YOU! fascisthunter Jan 2012 #34

Somone points a gun a you, that IS a grave threat, period. MicaelS Jan 2012 #44

"having a gun waved at them isn't necessarily that big a threat" Lizzie Poppet Jan 2012 #60

Please present evidence of your telepathic capabilities.... PavePusher Jan 2012 #64

"having a gun waved at them isn't necessarily that big a threat" oh ya, that's a classic :-) crazyjoe Jan 2012 #72

Good. I wish it was the case more often. Jean V. Dubois Jan 2012 #74

LOL "having a gun waved at them isn't necessarily that big a threat" L0oniX Jan 2012 #80

Uh, Fail? derby378 Jan 2012 #85

Free hash browns you say? Tsiyu Jan 2012 #14

It isn't the shooting of a crook. Blacksheep214 Jan 2012 #49

I have to agree. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2012 #62

+1 safeinOhio Jan 2012 #70

Celebrating that the non-criminals are alive and well is certainly justified. PavePusher Jan 2012 #71

If you don't like the celebration of his death, there's a simple solution. Don't celebrate. Jean V. Dubois Jan 2012 #77

Tell that to Rick Perry Blacksheep214 Jan 2012 #83

The next time I see him, I'll be sure to do so. Jean V. Dubois Jan 2012 #88

Which. despite the gnashing of teeth and wailing of the gun grabbbers, is the point of CCW. Edweird Jan 2012 #58

It goes both ways safeinOhio Jan 2012 #73

The VPC has an agenda and uses every possible slant and misinformation . Edweird Jan 2012 #75

VPC includes legitimate self defense in their numbers ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #78

There are few source to look to. safeinOhio Jan 2012 #87

That is still no excuse to use known bad information ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #89

False Dilemma safeinOhio Jan 2012 #96

How much money could possibly be in a Waffle House cash register? HopeHoops Jan 2012 #81

I've always been surprised that post offices aren't robbed more often. Jean V. Dubois Jan 2012 #90

As stupid as robbers can be, most know the PO is a federal crime, not a local or state one. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #94

Hm...I'm not so sure about that. Jean V. Dubois Jan 2012 #95

They know what they are doing. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #97

A freeper's wet dream. Fuzz Jan 2012 #91