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eppur_se_muova

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31. "Those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent change inevitable."
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 02:37 PM
Dec 10

JFK -- hardly a bloodthirsty warmonger, or fan of violence otherwise -- uttered those words at a time when smaller countries around the world were falling to Communist insurrections, or in danger of doing so. I'm sure he didn't mean it as a threat, but a warning -- advice which was sincerely intended to be heeded. Those in power must meet the demands of their people, or their people will depose them; the more violently they try to hold on to power, the more violence will be brought against them. That doesn't guarantee by any means that their successors will be white knights or angels of mercy, only that they will get their chance to hold the levers of power. If they fall back on the methods of the departed oppressor, they, the new oppressors, are likely to meet the same fate.

Currently, we're not talking about just countries and popular revolutions -- but those who benefit/profit from the current system, directly or indirectly, without ever having been elected, must be able to examine the consequences of their actions for the public and consider what resentments they may have engendered in the process of pursuing their personal rise to the top, or their corporation's business model to which they attribute their success. The recent killing of a greedy CEO whose business model was to deny (often life-saving) medical care to millions -- a perversion of traditional models where profits depend on providing something of value, not denying it -- should lead to some genuine soul-searching on the part of business "leaders" and organizations to whatever extent they are capable of it. Unfortunately, for many that may be no great extent at all, or even zero. Corporations, of course, despite putative claims that they "are people too", lack souls utterly. Morally, they are much less than the sum of their parts. So I wouldn't expect much change there, even if there are more examples of such killings, which will only confirm their ultimate futility (at least in a practical sense).

Only regulation can force proper behavior on corps whose self-declared sole purpose is profit at anyone else's cost. And until we can find politicians who won't sell out for a cut of those profits, we won't see change.

Health insurance, of course, is a uniquely dreadful example, because it differs from other forms of insurance in that it does not insure concrete, replaceable objects for the cost of replacement, but claims to insure an intangible, almost indefinable abstract condition of "good health", whose meaning is time- and context-dependent, and for which there is no off-the-shelf plug-in replacement. Such ambiguity allows those drawing up the contracts to determine whether they have or have not delivered what customers paid for -- an inherently bad design in very principle, which no amount of patching will ever render fully functional.

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Just Sit There Passively [View all] angrychair Dec 10 OP
It's a weird and perverse bit of poetry that the 'leaders' who say they will get tough on our Asian trading partners Attilatheblond Dec 10 #1
I have seen this directly affecting my children. FirstLight Dec 10 #23
It's been a class war all along. The race thing has always been a distraction so the rich can keep winning. Attilatheblond Dec 10 #28
As Bernie said, you don't have freedom if you don't have MadameButterfly Dec 11 #55
No worries, Attilatheblond Dec 11 #60
Hear, hear! SalamanderSleeps Dec 10 #36
But most of the people who are mad as hell and can't take it anymore MadameButterfly Dec 11 #56
Rich kid Luigi M never had to worry about healthcare either. Hell, his family profited from nursing homes. Silent Type Dec 10 #2
Guilt is a powerful motivator nt Bobstandard Dec 10 #12
It looks like he was denied treatment Tweedy Dec 10 #22
Looks like he had treatment to me, his xrays show pins in his spine. Those don't always produce pain-free results, Silent Type Dec 10 #26
Maybe ? Tweedy Dec 10 #30
"Maybe he met others...." TommyT139 Dec 10 #32
I can too Tweedy Dec 12 #62
And maybe he is just like the unibomber or Timothy McVeigh, found a rationale to shoot someone in the back. Silent Type Dec 10 #33
I have done so. Tweedy Dec 12 #63
I'm sure he got the best care LeftInTX Dec 10 #47
He needed to read Dr. John Sarnos books MadameButterfly Dec 11 #54
He has spondylolisthesis. (Slipped vertrebrae) He was on reddit and said his surgery was a success. LeftInTX Dec 11 #57
Even single-digit millionaires aren't safe from losing everything to healthcare bills. dawg Dec 10 #3
Their own healthcare bills..or their loved ones' healthcare bills...or their loved ones' job losses... lostnfound Dec 10 #27
False Dichotomy TheProle Dec 10 #4
Is your level of miscomprehension truly so deep or are you merely pretending to not understand Maru Kitteh Dec 10 #7
I comprehended it just fine TheProle Dec 10 #9
Tone: direct and to the point Bobstandard Dec 10 #14
Step off. dchill Dec 10 #16
LOL! TheProle Dec 10 #17
You're trying to use reason against opinion. Always futile. Bonx Dec 10 #24
Some people only hear 1 note Keepthesoulalive Dec 10 #13
This is exactly right angrychair Dec 10 #19
No such claim was made Cirsium Dec 10 #34
THANK YOU Skittles Dec 11 #53
Well said. brush Dec 10 #5
I wish I could share your post on Bluesky right now! Looking forward to Maru Kitteh Dec 10 #6
You can share it now on Bluesky. Just cut and paste the OP url into a Bluesky post you make Celerity Dec 10 #8
Hey thanks Celerity! Maru Kitteh Dec 10 #10
YW! Celerity Dec 10 #11
A practical Linda ladeewolf Dec 10 #15
Smile. KPN Dec 10 #18
You don't Linda ladeewolf Dec 10 #41
I never use the sodium (ie., "flavor") packages, but other than that, what you niyad Dec 10 #20
Also peachpit24 Dec 11 #59
I'll make homemade spaghetti sauce or stew canuckledragger Dec 10 #48
Violence should be the last resort. exoskeleton Dec 10 #21
Tacit approval noted Bonx Dec 10 #25
No angrychair Dec 10 #38
"I understand the frustration and sense of hopelessness in these situations." SunImp Dec 10 #29
"Those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent change inevitable." eppur_se_muova Dec 10 #31
THIS FirstLight Dec 10 #37
"And until we can find politicians who won't sell out for a cut of those profits, we won't see change." OldBaldy1701E Dec 11 #58
They also don't have to dodge bullets from their promulgated gun violence. live love laugh Dec 10 #35
Seen post say shooter is mentally ill Blue Full Moon Dec 10 #39
I'm in discussion elsewhere with someone who claims the CEO was innocent. intheflow Dec 10 #40
The CEOs business is legal Linda ladeewolf Dec 10 #46
The CEO was being investigated for insider trading and fraud. Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey Autumn Dec 10 #50
Ditto malaise Dec 10 #42
Might be the only time I agree with you Malaise, but +1. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #43
Get angry. Get high blood pressure. Get a heart attack.... LeftInTX Dec 10 #44
Gotta love the bootlicking, shaftsucking shitestains supporting the CEO. Abuser apologists. Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 10 #49
I hope it starts waking people up to who the real bad guys are. Initech Dec 10 #51
People are pissed. People are scared. An administration getting ready to take over who are Autumn Dec 10 #52
"We already have death panels. They're called insurance companies." Alan Grayson FL Evolve Dammit Dec 11 #61
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