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47. I find it all kind of sad and pathetic, and I'm not "well educated or intelligent"

Wed Dec 11, 2024, 04:22 PM

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There exists mountains and volumes of writing on historical realities, but nobody bothers anymore. It's much easier to throw around soundbites and slogans that fit their subjective feelings of what they want to believe. Historical reality matters, but that's boring I guess. Maher, and multiple millions of people like him consider themselves educated and intelligent. They're anything but that. If your education and intelligence rests on a foundation of garbage in and garbage out, that education and intelligence isn't worth a damn.

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