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Ocelot II

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12. I agree, and I've also been troubled over the attempts to justify this murder -
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:00 AM
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even the outright glee over it- on the ground that health insurers, and that one in particular, cruelly and unjustifiably prevent many people from receiving the health care they need, effectively killing them; therefore Brian Thompson had it coming. I'm not about to sing the praises of the late Mr. Thompson, UHC or the health insurance industry in general. All of them suck. We have a horrible health care financing system (the health care itself is usually good, if you can get it) that focuses on profit to the detriment of actual health care. But does anyone actually think murdering a CEO will change that situation in the slightest? It will not. Security will be increased (likely causing premiums to be raised and more claims to be denied), but nothing else will happen because the health insurance industry is rich enough to buy the agreement of our legislators, both federal and state, not to regulate its practices. Killing a CEO will do nothing to improve the situation, and celebrating his cold-blooded murder is only a stain on the soul of those who celebrate.

I don't recall anyone expressing joy over the murders committed by the Unabomber, Ted Kaczinski, who was motivated by his opposition to industrialization that was causing the destruction of the natural environment and eroding human freedom; he argued that his bombings were extreme but necessary in attracting attention to these issues. Many of us have been advocating for exactly these ideas, and even more now that climate change has become such a serious concern. But who was applauding for ol' Ted when he was planting bombs that killed people? I don't recall even the most ardent environmentalists claimed his acts were justified, and of course those acts didn't change anything at all. What's different now? Someone please explain to me how Luigi Mangione - who, it turns out, is a fan of the Unabomber - is qualitatively any different from him. Like the Unabomber he decided he needed to kill in order to draw attention to some flaw in society, and likewise appointed himself judge, jury and executioner. Nobody (except Luigi) loved Ted, but Luigi is getting a lot of love. Have we become so hardened to political violence that we applaud it, or at least try to concoct a justification for it, when the target is someone or something we hate?

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I think all of these cases expose the two-tiered "justice" system we have. alarimer Dec 12 #1
I've been wondering about those 2 teens stabbed. This is latest info I found. Silent Type Dec 12 #22
Yeah, that was a weird one Sympthsical Dec 12 #38
You mean how it's murder if you kill someone with a gun but it's just business if you kill thousands ... dawg Dec 12 #2
I mean exactly what I wrote. MineralMan Dec 12 #6
Did it ever occur to you that both of them were killers? dawg Dec 12 #7
Of course it did. MineralMan Dec 12 #10
I don't think we need to be scolded for our lack of enthusiasm for prosecuting this guy ... dawg Dec 12 #18
I'm not scolding anyone. I'm commenting on something MineralMan Dec 12 #20
Mangione left out the trial, conviction, and sentence parts like most vigilantes do. Ping Tung Dec 12 #11
It is legal to kill thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions Bettie Dec 12 #13
So does the miilitary industrial complex and we build monuments to them for doing it so efficiently. Ping Tung Dec 12 #21
There is a key difference Bettie Dec 12 #23
Will murdering their executives (or secretaries, accountants, lawyers, janitors) stop them from doing it? . Ping Tung Dec 12 #30
My post was about the fact that "health insurance" Bettie Dec 12 #31
Are you going to stop voting because it's useless? Ping Tung Dec 12 #33
You have more faith in republicans than I do Bettie Dec 12 #36
I live in Washington which is very Blue. I always vote blue (even when nose holding jis necessary). Ping Tung Dec 12 #37
Yes, and it shouldn't be. Ocelot II Dec 12 #26
+1. And Congress -- including our party's reps -- smile and take it. UHG donated substantially more to Dems than GOPers Silent Type Dec 12 #39
One man murdered another, not in self-defense but with premeditated malice. Dennis Donovan Dec 12 #3
Yes. And that's simply a fact. MineralMan Dec 12 #5
We're a nation of laws atreides1 Dec 12 #14
Those laws are almost never Bettie Dec 12 #24
The train has come off the rails.... full speed ahead,... magicarpet Dec 12 #4
Another shameful tragedy,... magicarpet Dec 12 #8
"Apparently, our basic moral and ethical rules no longer hold." CrispyQ Dec 12 #9
So it seems. I find that alarming. MineralMan Dec 12 #17
It's a cycle apparently. One we can't escape. CrispyQ Dec 12 #25
I agree, and I've also been troubled over the attempts to justify this murder - Ocelot II Dec 12 #12
Yes, I've noticed your posts, as usual. MineralMan Dec 12 #15
Maybe we are talking about individiuals whose morals haven't Mike 03 Dec 12 #16
Perhaps. However, I have not noticed that so much until recently. MineralMan Dec 12 #19
Let's not have a double standard. One standard will do just fine. George Carlin sarisataka Dec 12 #27
This really isn't a new phenomenon. Quiet Em Dec 12 #28
Let's revisit your post after the trial. maxrandb Dec 12 #29
Health insurance is immoral in itself. The entire sick for profit system shouldn't exist. Shell_Seas Dec 12 #32
Well, there are other healthcare systems, of course. MineralMan Dec 12 #34
In a better world we wouldn't need it at all. Ocelot II Dec 12 #35
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