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no_hypocrisy

(49,154 posts) Sat Dec 21, 2024, 07:20 AM Yesterday

Another consideration if Trump gives Ukraine to Putin: [View all]

If/When Putin marches into Poland with the same MO as Ukraine, former Ukrainians will be conscripted into Russia's invading army.

It's so much more than borders.

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Another consideration if Trump gives Ukraine to Putin: [View all] no_hypocrisy Yesterday OP

Good point, Trump will hand Putin one of the world's best fighting machines. Irish_Dem Yesterday #1

There would never be such a conscription... 2naSalit Yesterday #2

Exactly. Irish_Dem Yesterday #5

siberia for any ukrainians i'm afraid rampartd 23 hrs ago #24

Wont happen after the past 3 yrs Callie1979 Yesterday #8

Trump will hand Putin a country which hates his guts. Irish_Dem Yesterday #12

I for one am not giving up on Ukraine gab13by13 Yesterday #3

After the civil war you mean? BeyondGeography Yesterday #4

I've been thinking the same. Irish_Dem Yesterday #6

Same here. Taking Ukraine would be the easy part for Putin. Holding and controlling it would be the challenge. Midnight Writer Yesterday #9

Putin's Ukraine invasion was one of the greatest intelligence failures in history. Irish_Dem Yesterday #13

I hear what your saying. hydrolastic 23 hrs ago #26

Excellent point. A total failure of all US checks, balances, guardrails. Irish_Dem 23 hrs ago #28

Many of them thought it was a training exercise. Thats why Western militaries are better Callie1979 18 hrs ago #32

Holding and controlling a very hostile county takes a lot of troops and money. Irish_Dem Yesterday #14

This is so often ignored in discussion of Russian "gains" in Ukraine. Emrys Yesterday #15

Russia will always try to take more territory, that's who they are. Walleye Yesterday #16

That's certainly borne out by the current rhetoric from Kremlin-sponsored mouthpieces on Russia's media Emrys Yesterday #17

I think you have described very well the situation. Walleye Yesterday #19

I am a US military kid who lived in a US occupied country as a child. Irish_Dem Yesterday #18

Well, now they own the president of the United States. That's raw power. Walleye Yesterday #20

Exactly, it is a brilliant power play. Irish_Dem Yesterday #21

They have been working on it pretty much all of my life, 75 years Walleye Yesterday #22

They want the LAND. That area is full of natural resources. The towns are destroyed. Callie1979 18 hrs ago #34

Soviets occupied East Germany moondust 22 hrs ago #30

Yes rigid control takes a lot of ground troops. And 250,000 brutal police and Stasi. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #31

There weren't any opposition forces in E Germany. Callie1979 18 hrs ago #35

Well, Trump told EU representatives yesterday that he has no intention of abandoning Ukraine Emrys Yesterday #7

Amen Callie1979 Yesterday #11

I think there could be some mental masturbation going on between Trump and Putin right now. Irish_Dem Yesterday #23

It all comes down to what Daddy Musk decides Pachamama 23 hrs ago #29

Step-Daddy Elon might end up falling from a great height... haele 18 hrs ago #37

Thats it! The WORST thing Putin can do is gloat. Trump will treat him like Pence. Callie1979 18 hrs ago #36

Trump cannot "hand" UKR to Putin. UKR has a say in this as well as Europe Callie1979 Yesterday #10

Putin is not marching into Poland edhopper 23 hrs ago #25

How exactly does Trump give Ukraine to Putin? Pachamama 23 hrs ago #27

Even Putin isn't stupid enough to invade Poland. RubyRose 18 hrs ago #33