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2naSalit

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2. There would never be such a conscription...

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 21, 2024, 07:40 AM

20 hrs ago

As the Ukrainians would never be forced to fight for ruzzia, they would sabotage everything.

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Another consideration if Trump gives Ukraine to Putin: [View all] no_hypocrisy 20 hrs ago OP

Good point, Trump will hand Putin one of the world's best fighting machines. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #1

There would never be such a conscription... 2naSalit 20 hrs ago #2

Exactly. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #5

siberia for any ukrainians i'm afraid rampartd 18 hrs ago #24

Wont happen after the past 3 yrs Callie1979 20 hrs ago #8

Trump will hand Putin a country which hates his guts. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #12

I for one am not giving up on Ukraine gab13by13 20 hrs ago #3

After the civil war you mean? BeyondGeography 20 hrs ago #4

I've been thinking the same. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #6

Same here. Taking Ukraine would be the easy part for Putin. Holding and controlling it would be the challenge. Midnight Writer 20 hrs ago #9

Putin's Ukraine invasion was one of the greatest intelligence failures in history. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #13

I hear what your saying. hydrolastic 17 hrs ago #26

Excellent point. A total failure of all US checks, balances, guardrails. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #28

Many of them thought it was a training exercise. Thats why Western militaries are better Callie1979 13 hrs ago #32

Holding and controlling a very hostile county takes a lot of troops and money. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #14

This is so often ignored in discussion of Russian "gains" in Ukraine. Emrys 19 hrs ago #15

Russia will always try to take more territory, that's who they are. Walleye 19 hrs ago #16

That's certainly borne out by the current rhetoric from Kremlin-sponsored mouthpieces on Russia's media Emrys 19 hrs ago #17

I think you have described very well the situation. Walleye 19 hrs ago #19

I am a US military kid who lived in a US occupied country as a child. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #18

Well, now they own the president of the United States. That's raw power. Walleye 19 hrs ago #20

Exactly, it is a brilliant power play. Irish_Dem 18 hrs ago #21

They have been working on it pretty much all of my life, 75 years Walleye 18 hrs ago #22

They want the LAND. That area is full of natural resources. The towns are destroyed. Callie1979 13 hrs ago #34

Soviets occupied East Germany moondust 16 hrs ago #30

Yes rigid control takes a lot of ground troops. And 250,000 brutal police and Stasi. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #31

There weren't any opposition forces in E Germany. Callie1979 13 hrs ago #35

Well, Trump told EU representatives yesterday that he has no intention of abandoning Ukraine Emrys 20 hrs ago #7

Amen Callie1979 19 hrs ago #11

I think there could be some mental masturbation going on between Trump and Putin right now. Irish_Dem 18 hrs ago #23

It all comes down to what Daddy Musk decides Pachamama 17 hrs ago #29

Step-Daddy Elon might end up falling from a great height... haele 13 hrs ago #37

Thats it! The WORST thing Putin can do is gloat. Trump will treat him like Pence. Callie1979 13 hrs ago #36

Trump cannot "hand" UKR to Putin. UKR has a say in this as well as Europe Callie1979 19 hrs ago #10

Putin is not marching into Poland edhopper 17 hrs ago #25

How exactly does Trump give Ukraine to Putin? Pachamama 17 hrs ago #27

Even Putin isn't stupid enough to invade Poland. RubyRose 13 hrs ago #33