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28. the legislature is evenly divided

Sun Dec 29, 2024, 09:19 AM

Dec 29

...I don't see the point in looking at our half of the country's support as 'shattered,' no more than republicans who hold the other half of support.

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I feel like the Democratic Party is shattered [View all] samplegirl Dec 29 OP

I think some people have chosen to check out True Dough Dec 29 #1

You are right about this, but there is more to the story... Trueblue Texan Dec 29 #40

My daughter lives in Lubbock, is in law enforcement duhneece Dec 29 #59

I'm sure her situation was repeated all over the state and possibly across the nation. Trueblue Texan Dec 29 #64

these realities highlight the need for barbtries Dec 29 #73

I live in rural Texas and you could not get my neighbors to vote Democrat walkingman Dec 29 #90

Abandoning those areas and people won't change anything EdmondDantes_ Dec 29 #101

I witnessed the entire South (12 states) go from Democratic to Republican in my lifetime. walkingman Dec 29 #119

If requires funds to keep up all of those activities off-season. Local parties are limited. LeftInTX Dec 29 #149

Good for her! samplegirl Dec 29 #68

:( do you trust those people to protect her in a situation. onecaliberal Dec 29 #82

Agree. Lack of local, grassroots recruiting and activies is our weakness. wnylib Dec 29 #144

Traditional door to door canvassing is very difficult in rural areas. The Democratic party focuses on door to door LeftInTX Dec 29 #150

There weren't even political ads in my county wnylib Dec 29 #155

I understand about bdamomma Dec 29 #75

We already know what's going on. We don't need headlines, news cables or on line newssources anymore. we KNOW msfiddlestix Dec 29 #136

Totally bdamomma Dec 29 #148

Fair Point, quite true. It just goes to my underlying conviction currently, there's eff all any of us can do about it, msfiddlestix Dec 30 #166

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 29 #111

Yep that is where I am right now. At least I don't live OnDoutside Dec 29 #115

I feel like the Democratic party gab13by13 Dec 29 #2

Agree About AOC WiVoter Dec 29 #33

Another agree on AOC Strelnikov_ Dec 29 #77

I've been saying this over and over. ItsjustMe Dec 29 #81

I say the same samplegirl Dec 29 #89

Turns out old white men aren't the smartest anything in the room. onecaliberal Dec 29 #113

Pelosi's Rebl2 Dec 29 #88

can't agree enough about AOC -- she is our most powerful natural political talent cadoman Dec 29 #92

AOC is bypassed because she's a threat to the 1%'s ownership of this country. Oneironaut Dec 29 #95

I agree on both counts. yardwork Dec 29 #105

Me cilla4progress Dec 29 #116

Not shattered..... Lovie777 Dec 29 #3

They better smarten up PDQ Historic NY Dec 29 #4

trump promised everything to everyone and did it way more than Dems LymphocyteLover Dec 29 #6

Unfortunately, we prob need to put kerouac2 Dec 29 #12

We have those all over N.E. Ohio samplegirl Dec 29 #16

I agree Samplegirl... Trueblue Texan Dec 29 #44

Drove thru Pa. kerouac2 Dec 29 #52

The Democratic Party in Ohio is practically non existent! Diamond_Dog Dec 29 #53

We had a schism in 2016 between HRC and Bernie supporters Arazi Dec 29 #128

Totally agree. snot Dec 29 #147

You are right to some degree MuchBetterThanThis Dec 29 #35

I have lost so many friends in the real life that I had to just cut out of my life. samplegirl Dec 29 #85

Walz has a plumber's look but his record was pretty far left cadoman Dec 29 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 29 #120

"Normal people" displacedvermoter Dec 29 #125

We need a "dirty deeds" PAC. The GOP uses PACs mostly to push memes and click bait. LeftInTX Dec 29 #152

More like our messaging isn't getting through because it's not loud enough and spoken enough times oldmanlynn Dec 29 #48

The special interest groups are going to have to take a seat. BannonsLiver Dec 29 #137

So who are you throwing out of the tent, then? Blue_Tires Dec 30 #164

Nope, not shattered. Patton French Dec 29 #5

I agree about voter suppression. I think that's what tipped the election to the repukes. Diamond_Dog Dec 29 #67

Yup yup and yup Clouds Passing Dec 29 #76

It was the internet- and alternative journalists womanofthehills Dec 29 #135

What happened to all the marches after Nov 5th? LeftInTX Dec 29 #153

It's a party in transition. Baitball Blogger Dec 29 #7

Its rarely been cohesive now I do believe it's taking a little down time... MiHale Dec 29 #8

True look at all the infighting samplegirl Dec 29 #18

All we have to do JustAnotherGen Dec 29 #25

That's what I'm doing mcar Dec 29 #56

Come on "shattered" we lost by a few thousand votes in seven swing states. Incumbent doc03 Dec 29 #9

I think D. U. samplegirl Dec 29 #19

I think people are just burned out. I get tired of all doc03 Dec 29 #39

Any video with Trump in the title, I now ignore. ItsjustMe Dec 29 #87

Gods, yes buzzycrumbhunger Dec 29 #104

Part of that problem is DU's older demographic. intheflow Dec 29 #42

I lurked for 15 years and finally joined. MotownPgh Dec 29 #91

I don't like the jury system. I "don't serve on juries" is in my profile. LeftInTX Dec 29 #156

As you note, they barely won Strelnikov_ Dec 29 #99

shattered, may be a poor choice of words.disconnecting Democratic underground, which we never had b samplegirl Dec 29 #107

Lurked for years found the site in Bushes first term Woodwizard Dec 29 #161

Agreed. The MSM and others are convincing the Democratic Party that it is broken. yellow dahlia Dec 29 #122

If I want to see the Democratic Party dumped on, I'll rely on the NY Times. (nt) Paladin Dec 29 #10

A leader Escape Dec 29 #11

Or, maybe, just maybe some of us need to stop wishing for some magic hero to show up and do what we need to do ourselves Attilatheblond Dec 29 #29

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Yes. We need to build a grassroots based on our values, not just a candidate.nt Trueblue Texan Dec 29 #47

Shattered sounds like a media headline Macrophylla Dec 29 #13

Wait - VP Harris JustAnotherGen Dec 29 #24

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You don't see me at all JustAnotherGen Dec 29 #49

Name the "republicanenablingcorporatedemocrats" and give concrete specific examples each person emulatorloo Dec 29 #157

Shattered? No JustAnotherGen Dec 29 #14

Kamala Harris is very legitimately a "woman of color." MineralMan Dec 29 #50

She identifies as Black JustAnotherGen Dec 29 #79

No doubt you do. MineralMan Dec 29 #84

The problem is no longer about how the dems can win lostnfound Dec 29 #15

This is why we need to unite again samplegirl Dec 29 #20

That's why JustAnotherGen Dec 29 #26

THIS!!! nt Trueblue Texan Dec 29 #51

I started January 2017 JustAnotherGen Dec 29 #62

Agreed. I am concerned about what will be left in four years. yellow dahlia Dec 29 #121

Until we have a media outlet that has our back ... LSparkle Dec 29 #17

All the more reason to find samplegirl Dec 29 #22

FreeSpeechTV Horseshoeluck Dec 29 #108

Right - we need more independent media. yellow dahlia Dec 29 #123

I.wish..... BBbats Dec 29 #21

You don't JustAnotherGen Dec 29 #23

It WAS Harris' turn JustAnotherGen Dec 29 #27

She definitely was not. jimfields33 Dec 29 #31

Most Democrats are moderates. murielm99 Dec 29 #72

How do you deal with that? ItsjustMe Dec 29 #93

Sanders ran for President twice and was unable to win a primary. emulatorloo Dec 30 #167

the legislature is evenly divided bigtree Dec 29 #28

Don't write the eulogy yet. JohnnyRingo Dec 29 #32

Frustrated and exhausted for sure. NewHendoLib Dec 29 #34

We won some close senate races (AZ and MI) and gained House seats Buckeyeblue Dec 29 #36

Disagree JustAnotherGen Dec 29 #54

Taking care of worker is not enough. A person is a whole person, not a only a worker delisen Dec 29 #65

My argument is more nuanced than that Buckeyeblue Dec 29 #118

I hear you. delisen Dec 29 #134

im staying to be a thorn in the side in the upcoming pris and two years . AllaN01Bear Dec 29 #37

Many were run out, plus the board's far older on average & there certainly isn't much, if any, new young blood joining. Celerity Dec 29 #38

We've been talking here for 20 years or whatever Jarqui Dec 29 #41

I completely get this... Trueblue Texan Dec 29 #60

I was asking some of these same questions in a post yesterday. yellow dahlia Dec 29 #126

Thread winner. Boomerproud Dec 29 #132

We don't have to be focused on politics all the time JI7 Dec 29 #43

I felt this way as well but we have to remember oldmanlynn Dec 29 #46

The Dem message was weak and all over the place. It didn't focus nearly enough on what's pissing off many people. paleotn Dec 29 #57

We also cant have our messaging solely. oldmanlynn Dec 29 #83

We still get 200+ replies on some posts. Where you been? paleotn Dec 29 #55

"Taking credit for what we do" is a start. yellow dahlia Dec 29 #127

It is the calm Karch Dec 29 #58

I took a break from the crazy Woodwizard Dec 29 #61

Mix of Demograpgics and maybe we lost some w Bernie IbogaProject Dec 29 #63

Sometimes the bad guys win, sometimes Justice does not prevail, Quiet Em Dec 29 #66

I think, unfortunately, that events... S/V Loner Dec 29 #69

I am still here barbtries Dec 29 #70

Thank Goodness samplegirl Dec 29 #103

i for one am staying off cept for an occasdional check in samnsara Dec 29 #71

I see this and I think, "Oh, Putin is loving reading this while he eats his cornflakes." Lulu KC Dec 29 #74

Putin must really have a lot of time on his hands Hope22 Dec 29 #94

He has friends who do it for him and pass on the highlights Lulu KC Dec 29 #97

I'd love to send him a little message!! 🤣😁 Hope22 Dec 29 #110

. ItsjustMe Dec 29 #78

more headless than shattered cadoman Dec 29 #80

Media is just plain no good! samplegirl Dec 29 #117

TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS BootOutTheGoons Dec 29 #146

Weak, geriatric, and unable to adapt Cthulu on call Dec 29 #86

We put everything we had in this election Keepthesoulalive Dec 29 #96

I don't think so Jilly_in_VA Dec 29 #98

If we are shattered, much of it is our own fault for being complacent & overconfident about beating Trump. elocs Dec 29 #102

1. the Democratic leadership didn't address the top issue of several of my family members. Tetrachloride Dec 29 #106

We, Democrats, have the problem of understanding the complexity of legislation, Bluethroughu Dec 29 #109

It isn't the Democratic party that is shattered, but the country who has accepted the sociopath, sexist, racist garbage JohnSJ Dec 29 #112

Shattered is an apt term. cilla4progress Dec 29 #114

Judging the state of the Democtatic Party ibegurpard Dec 29 #124

Many were driven away. They tried to get rid of me too, but I'm stubborn. GPV Dec 29 #129

I feel like we are a sleeping giant just awaking from a deep slumber. delisen Dec 29 #130

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You make some good points. Abolishinist Dec 29 #154

Huh? hurl Dec 29 #162

It's not just any lost election. Speaking for myself and close friends/fam, we're demoralized beyond description msfiddlestix Dec 29 #133

The system is broken. They deliberately sabotaged it with huge spigots of cash. CrispyQ Dec 29 #138

"I feel like the Democratic Party is shattered" J_William_Ryan Dec 29 #139

There was no jury system in the old days BWdem4life Dec 29 #140

Yep...I won't even do jury duty. My experience was constantly reviewing posts. I would be in the middle of posting LeftInTX Dec 29 #158

We've been living in an Oligarchy for awhile and most Americans can't see it. jalan48 Dec 29 #141

I don't get your post. LudwigPastorius Dec 29 #142

Don't. Iggo Dec 29 #143

We're all angry, dejected and betrayed. Initech Dec 29 #145

I share your sentiments!! Never give up, never give in!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 29 #151

Nah, just taking some time off. We'll all be back fighting the Trump mindset, before you know it. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 29 #159

We need to find an sabbat hunter Dec 29 #160

They'll do well in midterms and win the next presidential election. It's politics. betsuni Dec 29 #163

Oy vey William769 Dec 30 #165