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Celerity

(50,096 posts)
38. Many were run out, plus the board's far older on average & there certainly isn't much, if any, new young blood joining.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 10:34 AM
Dec 2024

There really is not much, on balance, to offer newcomers here.

So many actually good, vital, stimulating articles sink like rocks, whilst fake news/misleading OPs often remain up long after they are debunked.

Not just that, but new replies flow in and wilfully ignore the fact the OP is bullshit.

Also, there is the always irritating, far too common ploy of a person admitting they know little to nothing about a subject, but then proceeding to issue narratives, commands, demands, etc, often invoking logical fallacies, flawed framings, and, unfortunately at times, outright falsehoods, all spun up as if they are the sole arbiter on the subject, self-admitted ignorance be damned.

The level of discernment here is lower than when I joined, and the groupthink level higher. Tolerance of most anything declared to be remotely heterodox is abysmal.

Add it all up, and you hardly have the recipe for a vibrant growing community.

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I think some people have chosen to check out True Dough Dec 2024 #1
You are right about this, but there is more to the story... Trueblue Texan Dec 2024 #40
My daughter lives in Lubbock, is in law enforcement duhneece Dec 2024 #59
I'm sure her situation was repeated all over the state and possibly across the nation. Trueblue Texan Dec 2024 #64
these realities highlight the need for barbtries Dec 2024 #73
I live in rural Texas and you could not get my neighbors to vote Democrat walkingman Dec 2024 #90
Abandoning those areas and people won't change anything EdmondDantes_ Dec 2024 #101
I witnessed the entire South (12 states) go from Democratic to Republican in my lifetime. walkingman Dec 2024 #119
If requires funds to keep up all of those activities off-season. Local parties are limited. LeftInTX Dec 2024 #149
Good for her! samplegirl Dec 2024 #68
:( do you trust those people to protect her in a situation. onecaliberal Dec 2024 #82
Agree. Lack of local, grassroots recruiting and activies is our weakness. wnylib Dec 2024 #144
Traditional door to door canvassing is very difficult in rural areas. The Democratic party focuses on door to door LeftInTX Dec 2024 #150
There weren't even political ads in my county wnylib Dec 2024 #155
I understand about bdamomma Dec 2024 #75
We already know what's going on. We don't need headlines, news cables or on line newssources anymore. we KNOW msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #136
Totally bdamomma Dec 2024 #148
Fair Point, quite true. It just goes to my underlying conviction currently, there's eff all any of us can do about it, msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #166
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #111
Yep that is where I am right now. At least I don't live OnDoutside Dec 2024 #115
I feel like the Democratic party gab13by13 Dec 2024 #2
Agree About AOC WiVoter Dec 2024 #33
Another agree on AOC Strelnikov_ Dec 2024 #77
I've been saying this over and over. ItsjustMe Dec 2024 #81
I say the same samplegirl Dec 2024 #89
Turns out old white men aren't the smartest anything in the room. onecaliberal Dec 2024 #113
Pelosi's Rebl2 Dec 2024 #88
can't agree enough about AOC -- she is our most powerful natural political talent cadoman Dec 2024 #92
AOC is bypassed because she's a threat to the 1%'s ownership of this country. Oneironaut Dec 2024 #95
I agree on both counts. yardwork Dec 2024 #105
Me cilla4progress Dec 2024 #116
Not shattered..... Lovie777 Dec 2024 #3
They better smarten up PDQ Historic NY Dec 2024 #4
trump promised everything to everyone and did it way more than Dems LymphocyteLover Dec 2024 #6
Unfortunately, we prob need to put kerouac2 Dec 2024 #12
We have those all over N.E. Ohio samplegirl Dec 2024 #16
I agree Samplegirl... Trueblue Texan Dec 2024 #44
Drove thru Pa. kerouac2 Dec 2024 #52
The Democratic Party in Ohio is practically non existent! Diamond_Dog Dec 2024 #53
We had a schism in 2016 between HRC and Bernie supporters Arazi Dec 2024 #128
Totally agree. snot Dec 2024 #147
You are right to some degree MuchBetterThanThis Dec 2024 #35
I have lost so many friends in the real life that I had to just cut out of my life. samplegirl Dec 2024 #85
Walz has a plumber's look but his record was pretty far left cadoman Dec 2024 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #120
"Normal people" displacedvermoter Dec 2024 #125
We need a "dirty deeds" PAC. The GOP uses PACs mostly to push memes and click bait. LeftInTX Dec 2024 #152
More like our messaging isn't getting through because it's not loud enough and spoken enough times oldmanlynn Dec 2024 #48
The special interest groups are going to have to take a seat. BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #137
So who are you throwing out of the tent, then? Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #164
Nope, not shattered. Patton French Dec 2024 #5
I agree about voter suppression. I think that's what tipped the election to the repukes. Diamond_Dog Dec 2024 #67
Yup yup and yup Clouds Passing Dec 2024 #76
It was the internet- and alternative journalists womanofthehills Dec 2024 #135
What happened to all the marches after Nov 5th? LeftInTX Dec 2024 #153
It's a party in transition. Baitball Blogger Dec 2024 #7
Its rarely been cohesive now I do believe it's taking a little down time... MiHale Dec 2024 #8
True look at all the infighting samplegirl Dec 2024 #18
All we have to do JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #25
That's what I'm doing mcar Dec 2024 #56
Come on "shattered" we lost by a few thousand votes in seven swing states. Incumbent doc03 Dec 2024 #9
I think D. U. samplegirl Dec 2024 #19
I think people are just burned out. I get tired of all doc03 Dec 2024 #39
Any video with Trump in the title, I now ignore. ItsjustMe Dec 2024 #87
Gods, yes buzzycrumbhunger Dec 2024 #104
Part of that problem is DU's older demographic. intheflow Dec 2024 #42
I lurked for 15 years and finally joined. MotownPgh Dec 2024 #91
I don't like the jury system. I "don't serve on juries" is in my profile. LeftInTX Dec 2024 #156
As you note, they barely won Strelnikov_ Dec 2024 #99
shattered, may be a poor choice of words.disconnecting Democratic underground, which we never had b samplegirl Dec 2024 #107
Lurked for years found the site in Bushes first term Woodwizard Dec 2024 #161
Agreed. The MSM and others are convincing the Democratic Party that it is broken. yellow dahlia Dec 2024 #122
If I want to see the Democratic Party dumped on, I'll rely on the NY Times. (nt) Paladin Dec 2024 #10
A leader Escape Dec 2024 #11
Or, maybe, just maybe some of us need to stop wishing for some magic hero to show up and do what we need to do ourselves Attilatheblond Dec 2024 #29
Post removed Post removed Dec 2024 #45
Yes. We need to build a grassroots based on our values, not just a candidate.nt Trueblue Texan Dec 2024 #47
Shattered sounds like a media headline Macrophylla Dec 2024 #13
Wait - VP Harris JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #24
Post removed Post removed Dec 2024 #30
You don't see me at all JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #49
Name the "republicanenablingcorporatedemocrats" and give concrete specific examples each person emulatorloo Dec 2024 #157
Shattered? No JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #14
Kamala Harris is very legitimately a "woman of color." MineralMan Dec 2024 #50
She identifies as Black JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #79
No doubt you do. MineralMan Dec 2024 #84
The problem is no longer about how the dems can win lostnfound Dec 2024 #15
This is why we need to unite again samplegirl Dec 2024 #20
That's why JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #26
THIS!!! nt Trueblue Texan Dec 2024 #51
I started January 2017 JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #62
Agreed. I am concerned about what will be left in four years. yellow dahlia Dec 2024 #121
Until we have a media outlet that has our back ... LSparkle Dec 2024 #17
All the more reason to find samplegirl Dec 2024 #22
FreeSpeechTV Horseshoeluck Dec 2024 #108
Right - we need more independent media. yellow dahlia Dec 2024 #123
I.wish..... BBbats Dec 2024 #21
You don't JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #23
It WAS Harris' turn JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #27
She definitely was not. jimfields33 Dec 2024 #31
Most Democrats are moderates. murielm99 Dec 2024 #72
How do you deal with that? ItsjustMe Dec 2024 #93
Sanders ran for President twice and was unable to win a primary. emulatorloo Dec 2024 #167
the legislature is evenly divided bigtree Dec 2024 #28
Don't write the eulogy yet. JohnnyRingo Dec 2024 #32
Frustrated and exhausted for sure. NewHendoLib Dec 2024 #34
We won some close senate races (AZ and MI) and gained House seats Buckeyeblue Dec 2024 #36
Disagree JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #54
Taking care of worker is not enough. A person is a whole person, not a only a worker delisen Dec 2024 #65
My argument is more nuanced than that Buckeyeblue Dec 2024 #118
I hear you. delisen Dec 2024 #134
im staying to be a thorn in the side in the upcoming pris and two years . AllaN01Bear Dec 2024 #37
Many were run out, plus the board's far older on average & there certainly isn't much, if any, new young blood joining. Celerity Dec 2024 #38
We've been talking here for 20 years or whatever Jarqui Dec 2024 #41
I completely get this... Trueblue Texan Dec 2024 #60
I was asking some of these same questions in a post yesterday. yellow dahlia Dec 2024 #126
Thread winner. Boomerproud Dec 2024 #132
We don't have to be focused on politics all the time JI7 Dec 2024 #43
I felt this way as well but we have to remember oldmanlynn Dec 2024 #46
The Dem message was weak and all over the place. It didn't focus nearly enough on what's pissing off many people. paleotn Dec 2024 #57
We also cant have our messaging solely. oldmanlynn Dec 2024 #83
We still get 200+ replies on some posts. Where you been? paleotn Dec 2024 #55
"Taking credit for what we do" is a start. yellow dahlia Dec 2024 #127
It is the calm Karch Dec 2024 #58
I took a break from the crazy Woodwizard Dec 2024 #61
Mix of Demograpgics and maybe we lost some w Bernie IbogaProject Dec 2024 #63
Sometimes the bad guys win, sometimes Justice does not prevail, Quiet Em Dec 2024 #66
I think, unfortunately, that events... S/V Loner Dec 2024 #69
I am still here barbtries Dec 2024 #70
Thank Goodness samplegirl Dec 2024 #103
i for one am staying off cept for an occasdional check in samnsara Dec 2024 #71
I see this and I think, "Oh, Putin is loving reading this while he eats his cornflakes." Lulu KC Dec 2024 #74
Putin must really have a lot of time on his hands Hope22 Dec 2024 #94
He has friends who do it for him and pass on the highlights Lulu KC Dec 2024 #97
I'd love to send him a little message!! 🤣😁 Hope22 Dec 2024 #110
. ItsjustMe Dec 2024 #78
more headless than shattered cadoman Dec 2024 #80
Media is just plain no good! samplegirl Dec 2024 #117
TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS BootOutTheGoons Dec 2024 #146
Weak, geriatric, and unable to adapt Cthulu on call Dec 2024 #86
We put everything we had in this election Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #96
I don't think so Jilly_in_VA Dec 2024 #98
If we are shattered, much of it is our own fault for being complacent & overconfident about beating Trump. elocs Dec 2024 #102
1. the Democratic leadership didn't address the top issue of several of my family members. Tetrachloride Dec 2024 #106
We, Democrats, have the problem of understanding the complexity of legislation, Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #109
It isn't the Democratic party that is shattered, but the country who has accepted the sociopath, sexist, racist garbage JohnSJ Dec 2024 #112
Shattered is an apt term. cilla4progress Dec 2024 #114
Judging the state of the Democtatic Party ibegurpard Dec 2024 #124
Many were driven away. They tried to get rid of me too, but I'm stubborn. GPV Dec 2024 #129
I feel like we are a sleeping giant just awaking from a deep slumber. delisen Dec 2024 #130
Post removed Post removed Dec 2024 #131
You make some good points. Abolishinist Dec 2024 #154
Huh? hurl Dec 2024 #162
It's not just any lost election. Speaking for myself and close friends/fam, we're demoralized beyond description msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #133
The system is broken. They deliberately sabotaged it with huge spigots of cash. CrispyQ Dec 2024 #138
"I feel like the Democratic Party is shattered" J_William_Ryan Dec 2024 #139
There was no jury system in the old days BWdem4life Dec 2024 #140
Yep...I won't even do jury duty. My experience was constantly reviewing posts. I would be in the middle of posting LeftInTX Dec 2024 #158
We've been living in an Oligarchy for awhile and most Americans can't see it. jalan48 Dec 2024 #141
I don't get your post. LudwigPastorius Dec 2024 #142
Don't. Iggo Dec 2024 #143
We're all angry, dejected and betrayed. Initech Dec 2024 #145
I share your sentiments!! Never give up, never give in!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2024 #151
Nah, just taking some time off. We'll all be back fighting the Trump mindset, before you know it. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2024 #159
We need to find an sabbat hunter Dec 2024 #160
They'll do well in midterms and win the next presidential election. It's politics. betsuni Dec 2024 #163
Oy vey William769 Dec 2024 #165
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