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Frank D. Lincoln

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9. I hate to say it but I agree.

Tue Jan 7, 2025, 11:49 AM

Jan 7

To me, with the 2024 election, it seems like we didn't merely lose a battle, we lost the war.

The political right won the war.

Republicans won the war because they've been playing the long game, whereas Democrats have always been short-sighted.

Another reason they won the war is because their highest priority has been the pursuit of power with the ends justifying the means, whereas the Democrats' highest priority has been on good governance and playing by the rules.

Republicans now have a lock on the federal government and will use Project 2025 to consolidate their power.

I hope I'm proven wrong.

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Anyone still have any hope for the future? [View all] Bettie Jan 7 OP

Nope. I think it's all downhill from here. Autumn Jan 7 #1

I hate to say it but I agree. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 7 #9

I agree 100% with everything you said. I don't see any way out of this. Autumn Jan 7 #12

Frank D. Lincoln..........I agree with your assessment. N/T Upthevibe Jan 7 #96

End Stage capitalism yankee87 Jan 7 #53

I do, "don't let the bastards get you down" wcmagumba Jan 7 #2

republicans are the ones who always make jokes about how incompetant louis-t Jan 7 #3

It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy. slightlv Jan 7 #45

Yeah, point their bony little fingers and say louis-t Jan 7 #51

louis-t.......... Upthevibe Jan 7 #98

Right now my hope for future rests on the mid-term election. If we lose seats then, well chit. Silent Type Jan 7 #4

Very little newdeal2 Jan 7 #5

Trumps only the beginning spapeggy Jan 7 #6

That's why the best solution is to emigrate to another country. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 7 #24

We have zero debt Bettie Jan 7 #29

If this is the greatest country in the world, how is it that so few of us can leave? Maru Kitteh Jan 7 #66

You can run but you can't hide Nasruddin Jan 7 #71

Musk - the future king of the world (and Mars). Frank D. Lincoln Jan 7 #86

Led by the Devil. mdbl Jan 7 #64

This is what giving your power away to make "statements" looks like-- Nixie Jan 7 #7

Republican incompetence will blunt some harm Quiet Em Jan 7 #8

I figure I'll be long in the grave before this country... and probably the world... slightlv Jan 7 #50

I sadly agree with this. nt Maru Kitteh Jan 7 #74

I'm not sure the environment will recover form another Trump term. walkingman Jan 7 #95

Turn off Facebook. Stop watching Fox and Prime. Initech Jan 7 #10

Not only will you hurt the billionaires, Unladen Swallow Jan 7 #84

Amen to that! Initech Jan 7 #91

I hope he croaks soon and I hope to cop a buzz this afternoon. mobeau69 Jan 7 #11

But will you fly your flag at half staff when he goes? usonian Jan 7 #25

I'll double the height of any flag pole Jerry2144 Jan 7 #49

Hell to the no state of stupid Jan 7 #97

I have lots of unopened champagne ... usonian Jan 7 #100

You like rum or is it BYOB? state of stupid Jan 7 #109

I like rum with Hawaiian drinks. usonian Jan 7 #110

The line of succession won't improve a thing IA8IT Jan 7 #57

We're done. Sky Jewels Jan 7 #13

I do, but very little of it relies on the outcomes of elections. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 7 #14

You're a very lucky person to be so untouchable by our shared realities. Think. Again. Jan 7 #36

Oh, I am definitely touchable when it comes to the current reality and possible futures. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 7 #37

Climate change will make survival difficult for many Kaleva Jan 7 #15

No. Praying that Soc Security & Medicare hold at least until I can retire CousinIT Jan 7 #16

hope springs eternal William769 Jan 7 #17

None whatsoever. Basso8vb Jan 7 #18

This is where I stand biophile Jan 7 #33

Unless the Supreme Court is reformed La Coliniere Jan 7 #19

Yes but SocialDemocrat61 Jan 7 #20

I am still alive sarisataka Jan 7 #21

I'm in a tough spot in my life awesomerwb1 Jan 7 #22

I think they're ultimately not going to be the answer Crunchy Frog Jan 7 #111

Curious. What do you mean by "outside of the "System"? awesomerwb1 Jan 7 #118

I mean outside of the electoral and party system. Crunchy Frog Jan 7 #120

Thinking this through ... usonian Jan 7 #23

Enjoy each meal, it may be your last. /.nt bucolic_frolic Jan 7 #26

It took the Roman empire a while to collapse. Turbineguy Jan 7 #27

This is more like the Roman Republic Nasruddin Jan 7 #76

Hope for what? Blue_Tires Jan 7 #28

A positive, enjoyable life I believe. Think. Again. Jan 7 #32

Nov. 5 taught me that it's the 'hope' that kills you 😐 Blue_Tires Jan 7 #119

I'm usually pretty good at getting out from under bad situations... Think. Again. Jan 7 #30

It is time homegirl Jan 7 #31

It's game over man. Moostache Jan 7 #34

Yes EdmondDantes_ Jan 7 #35

Where I lose hope is that so many Bettie Jan 7 #47

This is so true and yes, I too have lost hope. mountain grammy Jan 7 #93

The future will be fine CloudWatcher Jan 7 #38

I see this as a reverse flow... rasputin1952 Jan 7 #39

The Zeitgeist has turned sharply against progressives worldwide 0rganism Jan 7 #40

short term - no progressoid Jan 7 #41

I just don't know anymore NEOH Jan 7 #42

Not that much, but some. History does show that sometimes things come out of left field that might disturb, and break... electric_blue68 Jan 7 #43

Mt hope lies with GOP incompetence. TomSlick Jan 7 #44

Yes. yardwork Jan 7 #46

When one has to truly search among the never ending mudslide of bad news I find "hope" elusive. NoMoreRepugs Jan 7 #48

My gosh, is it debbie downer day? Butterflylady Jan 7 #52

I live in a red town, in a red state Bettie Jan 7 #56

I do. "This too shall pass" Shipwack Jan 7 #54

Not long before we will not get samplegirl Jan 7 #55

Nothing lasts forever RussBLib Jan 7 #58

We needed to address climate change decades ago to have hope Arazi Jan 7 #59

I do. I read news (Thanks DU, BumRushDaShow, Judy Lynn, & others) but I do not doom scroll Bernardo de La Paz Jan 7 #60

Thanks for the list Bettie Jan 7 #72

What I really think. hay rick Jan 7 #61

Yes, I am very optimistic Renew Deal Jan 7 #62

Hope is what drives me. Buddyzbuddy Jan 7 #63

Well that is going on the fridge. Thank you. He got here by never giving up mahina Jan 7 #99

Thank you, mahina, Aloha Buddyzbuddy Jan 7 #116

In the short term? No. LudwigPastorius Jan 7 #65

Nope, none at all AverageOldGuy Jan 7 #67

AverageOldGuy, thank you for fighting so hard for so Buddyzbuddy Jan 7 #115

Until we accept the fact that we no longer live under a democracy, we are going to be constantly disappointed. jalan48 Jan 7 #68

Perfectly said EarthAbides Jan 7 #81

Yes, I do SCantiGOP Jan 7 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author SCantiGOP Jan 7 #70

One ray of sun soaked optimism ... MiHale Jan 7 #73

4 years is a speck of a drop in an bottomless bucket of time and space. CoopersDad Jan 7 #75

Bettie.............. Upthevibe Jan 7 #77

Yes. H2O Man Jan 7 #78

I look fwd to any fight I may face in the future Kaleva Jan 7 #79

At this point, re-reading Zinn's People's History of the US, and rooting for Attilatheblond Jan 7 #80

What makes it difficult KT2000 Jan 7 #82

Absolutely.... Bettie Jan 7 #89

Yes. Life is a gift. Unladen Swallow Jan 7 #83

That was beautiful MorbidButterflyTat Jan 7 #112

My lifelong friend said "I will not let negative energy rule my life" Martin Eden Jan 8 #121

Believe me, I know how hard it can be Unladen Swallow Jan 8 #123

Half of our fellow citizens are fascist idiots and that's not going to change. AverageJoe Jan 7 #85

Sun will come up tomorrow. Change what I can. Festivito Jan 7 #87

I am working on myself EarthAbides Jan 7 #88

I always have hope. Elessar Zappa Jan 7 #90

I Believe we will make it through relatively unscathed. Groundhawg Jan 7 #92

I do Lulu KC Jan 7 #94

Not at all. piddyprints Jan 7 #101

Nope. The oligarchy has spoken. orangecrush Jan 7 #102

Not in my lifetime. I'm 68 and will not see the end of American stupidity. Ferrets are Cool Jan 7 #103

Fundamental flaws in our constitution led to the failure of our government Mysterian Jan 7 #104

I think it is a slow motion coup. The only thing could save us is a finacial meltdown. doc03 Jan 7 #105

Not until the Consequences Bat has descended enough times, and with requisite force . . . . hatrack Jan 7 #106

Maybe in the very long term. Crunchy Frog Jan 7 #107

Not long-term, due to climate change, but I think we're GPV Jan 7 #108

There's *always* hope EnergizedLib Jan 7 #113

Sadly, I'd have to say no. Borogove Jan 7 #114

Of course. But what do you mean? nolabear Jan 7 #117

If I could turn off Trump I might be able to find hope. The media Emile Jan 8 #122