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MadameButterfly

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28. The Robber Barons used to

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compete with each other to become the richest men in the world. To do this the steelworkers worked 12 hour days, 7 days a week, with a high death accident rate and even higher deaths from pneumonia. Then Carnegie set out to donate more money than any man in the workd through philanthropy--libraries, museums, the famous music hall.

They chose McKinley and bought him the presidency.

Only McKinley's assassination and Teddy Roosevelt's trust-busting saved us. For a while. Now the robber barons are back but we call them Oligarchs. They have more powerful media. And it's not only worker's lives at stake but the whole planet.

Rich shallow men who think their lives matter more than the rest of the world population.

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The Problem With Propaganda [View all] Initech Jan 11 OP

Pseudo Religious Institutions might be added GreenWave Jan 11 #1

i haven't figured their part out yet, other than leading the flock to slaughter rampartd Jan 11 #4

The religion part is to control the masses. hedda_foil Jan 11 #8

Opus Dei-dream. rubbersole Jan 11 #12

Religion is Cherokee100 Jan 11 #42

Pseudo religious institutions? paleotn Jan 11 #21

They saw it worked for RevMoon's goal to replace US democracy with theo-fascism. blm Jan 11 #2

Yes you understand our current reality quite well. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #3

Rupee being the oldest, moondust Jan 11 #5

The Problem With Propaganda Mr.Bee Jan 11 #6

The Solution to Propaganda is Bernardo de La Paz Jan 11 #17

Yes! We seriously need to do this! LymphocyteLover Jan 11 #18

Money is free speech, corporations are people gives rise to the age of the oligarchs. surfered Jan 11 #7

There are also billionaires on the Democratic Party side oldmanlynn Jan 11 #9

If there were a Go Fund Me page for truth, yellow dahlia Jan 11 #39

Not very many. Voltaire2 Jan 12 #55

Bezos was already rich. Mosby Jan 11 #10

Good point Mosby Buddyzbuddy Jan 11 #22

If you're already rich, you're buying to consolidate power so you get even richer. Initech Jan 11 #33

True Buddyzbuddy Jan 11 #41

They are addicts of the worst kind. Clouds Passing Jan 12 #49

they were ALL already rich Skittles Jan 11 #23

I look at it this way: Initech Jan 11 #34

It works until it doesn't jmbar2 Jan 11 #11

The bribing class makes the rules(NT) The Wizard Jan 11 #13

To Serve Man KT2000 Jan 11 #14

You would be surprised what well organized Dem supporters can accomplish by deploying their own propaganda Bernardo de La Paz Jan 11 #15

I don't disagree but what really pisses me off is that these individuals senseandsensibility Jan 11 #16

The problem with exaggeration is that it is propaganda. If Jeff Bezos bought the Post so he could turn it into a fascist Martin68 Jan 11 #19

All it takes is once. Buddyzbuddy Jan 11 #25

You can still catapult the fascist propaganda with "leftish" platforms Farmer-Rick Jan 12 #50

I challenge you to find a single endorsement of fascism or a fascist concept by the Post editorial staff. Martin68 Jan 12 #53

The mere fact Wapo did NOT endorse Harris Farmer-Rick Jan 12 #58

Sorry, not supporting the left is not fascism. I also see some weird conflation in this thread between fascism and Martin68 Jan 12 #59

I can write whatever I want to Farmer-Rick Jan 13 #60

Farmer, I neither wrote nor implied you can't write what you want to. I merely disagreed with you. Martin68 Jan 14 #64

Since when are Kamala Harris and Tim Walz "the left" JHB Jan 13 #62

Failing to endorse a presidential candidate is proof that the Post and Bezos did not come even close to engaging Martin68 Jan 12 #52

I did not state either Bezo's or the Post Buddyzbuddy Jan 13 #63

My only comment is to replace "get rich" with "get even more rich" JHB Jan 11 #20

JHB, are you claiming the Post makes a significant profit? On what do you base that claim? Martin68 Jan 12 #54

Those already-rich people bought those outlets to better shape opinions and perceptions JHB Jan 13 #61

Yes. When source-checking, snot Jan 11 #24

All of these guys were already rich before PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 11 #26

They seem to endlessly want to get richer MadameButterfly Jan 11 #29

Evidently money is the motivation for everything in the world even when obviously not, ideology is betsuni Jan 11 #35

eat the rich IA8IT Jan 11 #27

The Robber Barons used to MadameButterfly Jan 11 #28

When is enough (money) enough? No Vested Interest Jan 11 #30

Oh it never is for these fucks! Initech Jan 11 #32

Democrats have no real answer for this. alarimer Jan 11 #31

This. progressoid Jan 11 #36

Right On Baron2024 Jan 11 #37

My husband says if he won millions in the lottery, he would buy media. yellow dahlia Jan 11 #38

I wouldn't include Washington Post JI7 Jan 11 #40

Bezos part is wrong...it turned into that JT45242 Jan 11 #43

So it's a war on education too then? Initech Jan 11 #44

No it was a money grab... JT45242 Jan 11 #45

They stepped on many people to get there DENVERPOPS Jan 11 #46

Greed, E. Normus Jan 12 #47

Yes...wasn't Bezos left wing at first though? Meowmee Jan 12 #48

Money Protects Money JustAnotherGen Jan 12 #51

A clarification on 'they were already rich'. Voltaire2 Jan 12 #56

Kick Blue_Tires Jan 12 #57