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AverageJoe

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80. I am making no assumptions, whatsoever.

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 02:01 PM

Jan 12

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“A new intelligence report sent to Congress on Friday concludes that virtually all of the 144 sightings of unidentified flying objects documented by the military since 2004 are of unknown origin, in an extremely rare public accounting of the U.S. government’s data on UFOs that is likely to fuel further speculation about phenomena the intelligence community has long struggled to understand.
The report — the government’s first unclassified assessment in half a century — does not offer any definitive answers on who or what may be operating a variety of aircraft that, in some cases, appear to defy known characteristics of aerodynamics, and that officials believe pose a threat to national security and flight safety.“

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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/25/government-report-ufos-are-real-496319

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Flight Crew 'Astonished' to See Glowing Objects 'Zig-Zagging' at 45K Feet Over the Bahamas [View all] C0RI0LANUS Jan 12 OP

Can these be drones? Irish_Dem Jan 12 #1

no. reACTIONary Jan 12 #16

Advanced technology, classified? Irish_Dem Jan 12 #27

The US military doesn't operate... reACTIONary Jan 12 #40

We don't know where classified military activity takes place. Irish_Dem Jan 12 #46

With all due respect Happy Hoosier Jan 12 #50

With all due respect. Irish_Dem Jan 12 #72

Not suggesting you're lying Happy Hoosier Jan 12 #89

Thanks Happey Hoosiser and Irish Dem for your MadameButterfly Jan 13 #109

You may have seen experimental aircraft, but.... reACTIONary Jan 12 #98

Ball lightning qazplm135 Jan 12 #52

A couple B-25s were used as drones in WW2 Callie1979 Jan 12 #56

Drones were used in the Viet Nam war but highly classified. Irish_Dem Jan 12 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author wnylib Jan 12 #64

If the NY Post is covering it, it must be horsesh#t. Simeon Salus Jan 12 #2

Hi Irish Dem: Chinese and Russian technology are comparable to the US. C0RI0LANUS Jan 12 #3

That "slow moving Chinese spy balloon" looks like intheflow Jan 12 #25

It does. One reason is that... reACTIONary Jan 12 #41

Thanks but advanced military technology is often highly classified and kept secret. Irish_Dem Jan 12 #33

The picture of the slow moving Army spy blimp wnylib Jan 12 #90

Man, I'd hate to have a drone in my navel underpants Jan 12 #101

Maybe ........................ Lovie777 Jan 12 #4

ETs are finally getting off their behinds and intervening before Earth goes belly up. Irish_Dem Jan 12 #34

Pretty Much... HipChick Jan 12 #75

NBC TV Miami aired the story which the NY Post then published. Link below. C0RI0LANUS Jan 12 #5

Ball lightning imagery from the public domain. C0RI0LANUS Jan 12 #6

Does ball lightning zig-zag? Didn't think so. And neither do weather balloons. TheRickles Jan 12 #7

Hi TheRickles. Aviation or meteorological experts would know better. Me? I'm heading for the hills. C0RI0LANUS Jan 12 #8

---and does it strike at 45,000 ft altitude? 3Hotdogs Jan 12 #9

There are plenty of reports qazplm135 Jan 12 #53

A link or two would be very helpful here. TheRickles Jan 12 #61

There is a link in post #2 to a Wikipedia article wnylib Jan 12 #77

What would cause the lightening strikes? Irish_Dem Jan 12 #35

Electricity. Not trying to be glib. I have very little wnylib Jan 12 #83

Wow what a story. Irish_Dem Jan 12 #84

It's Elon Musk's integrity bronxiteforever Jan 12 #10

I think Muskrat's integrity left Earth orbit long ago William Seger Jan 12 #12

Did he ever have any to start with? niyad Jan 12 #66

The Bahamas? AverageOldGuy Jan 12 #11

Vampires and werewolves fighting in the sky... rubbersole Jan 12 #20

Maybe our new extra-terrestrial friends are Democrats and they want to do us a favor before 20 Jan. C0RI0LANUS Jan 12 #13

You have no idea how bluestarone Jan 12 #29

There are interesting things happening... OneGrassRoot Jan 12 #14

Agreed. One recent documentary I'd recommend is about a group sighting 30 years ago. TheRickles Jan 12 #19

This is an excellent documentary AverageJoe Jan 12 #23

I saw a documentary about that on Netflix. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 12 #103

I just watched the first episode of something called Investigation Alien TxGuitar Jan 12 #49

Thx for the above recommendations. One interesting thing I'm experiencing... OneGrassRoot Jan 12 #76

I've got book rec for you: "In Plain Sight" by... electric_blue68 Jan 13 #110

Yes, I follow him! OneGrassRoot Jan 13 #112

YW electric_blue68 Jan 13 #113

dbl post electric_blue68 Jan 13 #111

Infinite time and space is hard to understand. multigraincracker Jan 12 #15

This OneGrassRoot Jan 12 #18

Physicists found a particle that has mass only when moving in one dimension. Kid Berwyn Jan 12 #24

Interesting! So, mass can apply only to 1 dimension. Man, I swear that we're learning more and more still to this SWBTATTReg Jan 12 #55

It certainly seems so from out human perspective. defacto7 Jan 12 #31

Just what we need Danascot Jan 12 #17

We'uns here abouts in floriduh wants to report a crime.. rubbersole Jan 12 #22

Mammals from the sea ecstatic Jan 12 #21

More alien drones? ananda Jan 12 #26

In reality, nothing new... Kid Berwyn Jan 12 #28

I would love to think Susan Calvin Jan 12 #30

Not this shit again. paleotn Jan 12 #32

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio than are dreamt of in niyad Jan 12 #36

Evidence, please. paleotn Jan 12 #54

The disdain for those whose minds are open to possibilities is clearly niyad Jan 12 #69

Don't mean to be defensive or superior. paleotn Jan 12 #73

As I have pointed out, AverageJoe Jan 12 #86

Were you part of this conversation? No, you were not. paleotn Jan 12 #100

Love that quote. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 12 #104

Humans have always done this. Something they don't understand gets ascribed to the supernatural. Irish_Dem Jan 12 #38

Have you actually read any serious literature on the subject? AverageJoe Jan 12 #43

"I'm not saying they're aliens...." Old History Channel trope. paleotn Jan 12 #44

Nice non-answer deflection AverageJoe Jan 12 #57

Have you decided that rational explanations for unknown phenomena are better than wild speculation? paleotn Jan 12 #59

All I know is the US government says they are real and exceed our own technology AverageJoe Jan 12 #62

You're making wild assumptions. The US government doesn't know what they are. paleotn Jan 12 #68

I am making no assumptions, whatsoever. AverageJoe Jan 12 #80

"are of unknown origin" paleotn Jan 12 #99

I did not say these objects were piloted by aliens AverageJoe Jan 12 #107

Is there any? Disaffected Jan 12 #65

There is, actually. AverageJoe Jan 12 #67

Thanks, I'm willing to take a look but, Disaffected Jan 12 #87

These books don't take the path of wild speculation AverageJoe Jan 12 #88

OK, that doen't match what I was really asking for but Disaffected Jan 12 #92

They don't do what you want them to do AverageJoe Jan 12 #94

Ah, here we go. Disaffected Jan 12 #95

You are the one making unsupported claims AverageJoe Jan 12 #96

Always? No, not always. And those that aren't explained remain "unidentified" Callie1979 Jan 12 #79

It's NOT fucking ball-lightning or blimps, or swamp gas... PCIntern Jan 12 #37

I have witnessed a number of odd things over my many years, including niyad Jan 12 #39

it's more likely you mistake your wife for Sophia Vergara or your husband for Brad Pitt than you spot aliens thebigidea Jan 12 #48

Did I say that these craft were staffed with aliens? PCIntern Jan 12 #51

Orbs BoRaGard Jan 12 #42

A couple of days after Christmas while I holiday visiting my mother in Arizona kimbutgar Jan 12 #45

Keep in mind that "UFO" simply PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 12 #58

You might think differently after going to this museum kimbutgar Jan 12 #60

I haven't been to the AZ Boardwalk in a few years. StarryNite Jan 12 #97

I also like the illusion visual museum kimbutgar Jan 12 #106

Oh that one sounds interesting too. StarryNite Jan 13 #108

Great I will check it out next time I'm there kimbutgar Jan 13 #114

I don't know when it will be open. StarryNite Jan 13 #115

likely spirits of people lost in the Bermuda Triangle bigtree Jan 12 #47

There is a species on this planet that's been operating flying machines for over a hundred years. Iggo Jan 12 #63

Are resident of Masbate known as Masbaters? Sneederbunk Jan 12 #70

There is something appearing in our skies that none of our governments can explain HipChick Jan 12 #74

Well, you're absolutely correct... PCIntern Jan 12 #78

Absolutely.. HipChick Jan 12 #82

It's the Jewish Space Laser Light Show Blue Owl Jan 12 #81

This performance is entitled "Enlighting Uranus" underpants Jan 12 #102

Bwah! Blue Owl Jan 12 #105

Why is there never clear video? getagrip_already Jan 12 #85

Here: PCIntern Jan 12 #91

Defying our known laws of physics? Lunabell Jan 12 #93