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Bluetus

(475 posts)
60. The people funding that were Republicans, if not purebred Nazis
Tue Jan 14, 2025, 02:07 PM
Jan 14

That much is obvious. The question is why was none of that of interest to Smith or Garland?

The answer to that is equally obvious. DoJ has always been a far right operations, willing to do anything (legal or otherwise) to support the authoritarians in our system. J Edgar set it up that way. We can cite a few DoJ people who depart from the J Edgar profile, but by and large, DoJ in general and the FBI in particular has always been, and continues to be, an operation that considered itself police, judge and jury and sometimes executioner because they and only they know what is best for the public.

Just this morning I listened to a podcast that retold the story of the 1971 break-in of FBI offices in Media, PA by the group the took the title Citizen's Commission to Investigate the FBI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_Commission_to_Investigate_the_FBI

They successfully captured documents that showed the extra-legal means that the Hoover FBI was willing to go in order to intimidate citizens that saw the world differently from J Edgar, particularly with regard to the Vietnam war. There were hearings by the Church Committee and that resulted in some legislation to constrain Hoover. But that patronizing attitude within Justice is still strong today.

Burglary is a crime, of course. But what the FBI was doing was far worse than the crime of entering a building and taking documents that should have been in the public record already.

Just a side note, a crucial moment in that affair came when the Citizen's Commission had sent some of the documents to major newspapers. Hoover personally learned of that and had AG John Mitchell (could have been a twin of Merrick Garland) personally harassed and threatened the editors of WashPo to not publish the story. They had to think hard about that, but ultimately they went forward with the story on the front page.

THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN TODAY. And that is where we are and why we are where we are.

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What a fucking disgrace. Autumn Jan 14 #1
He managed to convict Hunter of what most of the Maga gun owners do, Bluethroughu Jan 14 #88
Textbook example of "Justice delayed is justice denied" (Gladstone). sop Jan 14 #2
I was thinking... 2naSalit Jan 14 #3
He really should have known better Bluetus Jan 14 #35
What are you talking about? dpibel Jan 14 #41
What I'm saying is that he spread himself so thin with such a grandiose bag of charges Bluetus Jan 14 #57
Why Are You Blaming Smith For The Problems Caused By Roberts? DallasNE Jan 14 #89
"Should have been enough time" Bluetus Jan 15 #92
Silly. H2O Man Jan 15 #90
Two more words edhopper Jan 14 #4
The entire effin system failed malaise Jan 14 #5
Aint that the truth! edhopper Jan 14 #10
+1 Dave Bowman Jan 14 #51
He should have been cuffed and taken away on 1/6/21. Haggard Celine Jan 14 #81
That simplr malaise Jan 14 #83
And now I predict he's going to "run for his life" and "hide" somewhere. Justice matters. Jan 14 #8
Depends VBNMW Jan 14 #68
My 2 words: Garland won. MLAA Jan 14 #6
Thank you. William769 Jan 14 #7
I don't think he means edhopper Jan 14 #11
I meant my post to suggest that in retrospect I think Garland intentionally slow rolled the federal cases against TFG MLAA Jan 14 #15
Yes edhopper Jan 14 #21
Thanks for your clarification, the only other explanation for Garland's supreme failure is that he is not very bright MLAA Jan 14 #30
OR VBNMW Jan 14 #67
It's possible, but I lean more toward Biden choosing not to fire Garland due to the optics of firing the AG who brought MLAA Jan 14 #74
The problems with GOP, the courts and political crimes are deeper PufPuf23 Jan 15 #91
Indeed MLAA Jan 15 #95
I have asked homegirl Jan 14 #38
Enquiring minds (like ours) want to know! MLAA Jan 14 #42
I think they brought their own hookers. Maru Kitteh Jan 14 #59
O. M. G. calimary Jan 14 #78
The people funding that were Republicans, if not purebred Nazis Bluetus Jan 14 #60
The ONLY thing I have seen is that Drumpf allowed them to stay free at his hotel. Zero beyond that. Nice job DOJ.... Evolve Dammit Jan 14 #79
That may very well be. William769 Jan 14 #19
You mean that Garland isn't an abject failure edhopper Jan 14 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author MLAA Jan 14 #25
To me Garlands detractors are abject failure William769 Jan 14 #31
Biden says edhopper Jan 14 #34
... orangecrush Jan 14 #76
I was a vocal supporter of Garland's until the last 6 months or so. MLAA Jan 14 #12
Thank you for the clarification. William769 Jan 14 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author AKwannabe Jan 14 #43
How about DENVERPOPS Jan 14 #80
Yep. Two months before the election instead of two months after would have been nice. still-prayin4rain Jan 14 #9
Too Late dalton99a Jan 14 #13
I think the 2nd report will be more damaging Johonny Jan 14 #14
Totally agree! dmr Jan 14 #17
The second investigation focused on the possession of highly classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. sop Jan 14 #32
This is the one I. want people to see MadameButterfly Jan 14 #39
I'm afraid my opinion of the GOP is low enough that I'll need to see them not ignoring it... JHB Jan 14 #45
You're right, they'll all die on that hill defending Trump. sop Jan 14 #50
"It will be difficult for Republicans to ignore & defend..." Nah, they'll make it look easy. n/t Beartracks Jan 14 #65
When the 2nd report shows Trump shared top secret documents with the shady foreign nationals who hang sop Jan 14 #66
It will be totally easy J-9 Jan 14 #82
"Blah blah witchhunt blah blah weaponized justice system blah blah..." The usual shit schtick. Beartracks Jan 14 #84
Is a second report confirmed? msfiddlestix Jan 14 #48
Biden could release it this afternoon. Bluetus Jan 14 #61
The 2nd report will not be released officially. totodeinhere Jan 14 #69
Think about this gab13by13 Jan 14 #16
I didn't know that. dmr Jan 14 #24
From Politico, 2017: JHB Jan 14 #54
Thank you. Like you, I figured Biden chose Garland dmr Jan 14 #64
really? I missed that factoid. Regardless, I knew Garland was the wrong pick during his pathetic confirmation hearing msfiddlestix Jan 14 #49
Something is inherently wrong with a legal system that can't prosecute cases in four years. lees1975 Jan 14 #20
I am sorry, but have to agree on this one. True Blue American Jan 14 #29
LOL VBNMW Jan 14 #71
another 2 words bdamomma Jan 14 #23
Or 3 words woodsprite Jan 14 #26
Which is precisely why Trump sought, and the courts provided, delay after delay Fiendish Thingy Jan 14 #27
"Garland Delayed". Think. Again. Jan 14 #28
Merrick Garland, a name that will live in infamy. Borogove Jan 14 #33
**NEVER** Trust a Republican... NEVER uponit7771 Jan 14 #36
A truth beyond has never been truer. Butterflylady Jan 14 #44
We were promised.. VBNMW Jan 14 #72
I don't see orangecrush Jan 14 #77
Any chance whatsoever Democrats learned a lesson from all this?? I am not holding my breath. NoMoreRepugs Jan 14 #37
Absolutely VBNMW Jan 14 #73
"Treason coverup". They did not release the half about documents case. lostnfound Jan 14 #40
TRAITOR WALKS Kid Berwyn Jan 14 #46
I guess FOUR YEARS wasn't long enough . . . Emile Jan 14 #47
Three: He did it! NM Grins Jan 14 #52
Yup, time did matter. republianmushroom Jan 14 #53
Yep, Too Late IbogaProject Jan 14 #55
I don't think this report would have impacted the election HereForTheParty Jan 14 #56
Absolutely the case. Nothing new here. Bluetus Jan 14 #62
It -might- have gotten more Dems & Independents to vote for Kamala. electric_blue68 Jan 14 #85
This again. nt Drum Jan 14 #58
Hope springs eternal stillcool Jan 14 #63
Wow, now folks are bashing Jack Smith? You are kidding, right? This is a GOP dream... Joinfortmill Jan 14 #70
Thom Hartmann made a point in the third hour of today's program Mike 03 Jan 14 #75
At least Garland avoided the appearance of a political agenda Orrex Jan 14 #86
I remember a time when the US media were full of . . . Aussie105 Jan 14 #87
"Too big to jail" n/t King_Klonopin Jan 15 #93
I never put a hero label on people anymore. But I surprised at the hate for Smith here: Cannon was the problem. C Moon Jan 15 #94
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