Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

tulipsandroses

(6,644 posts)
44. He is right about voter suppression
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:27 PM
Monday

We Georgians know that first hand from 2018 when Kemp stole the election from Stacey. Abrams. Along with fighting against the RW propaganda machine, we need to fight against voter suppression. Raffensperger, continued where Kemp left off. Although they would not go along with trump's scheme in 20, they are no heroes of democracy.
The question is, did the purges affect the outcome? It did in 2018 for the GA Gov race.
I do think that the media at large should be doing serious investigative work on this issue.

After the Purge
How a massive voter purge in Georgia affected the 2018 election

State officials claimed that people removed from the voter rolls for inactivity had likely died or moved away. But an APM Reports investigation found tens of thousands who hadn't — and still wanted to vote.
On Election Day 2018, James Baiye II drove to Lucerne Baptist Church in the same suburban Atlanta neighborhood where he'd been registered to vote for most of his adult life. He dropped his brother and elderly mother at the front door, parked the car and got in line. Though he'd been registered for years, the 31-year-old African American hadn't been a frequent voter. He'd spent a few years playing football at a junior college in North Carolina. In 2012, Baiye says, he requested an absentee ballot but there's no record of it in the state's voter file. In fact, he hadn't cast an in-person ballot since 2008, when Barack Obama first ran for president.

This year was different. He'd become excited about candidacy of Stacey Abrams, the Democrat who was vying to become Georgia's first African-American governor, and the nation's first-ever black woman to lead a U.S. state. It wasn't Abrams' race that swayed Baiye, he said, but rather her pledge to run the government differently. "A lot of being there for the people," he said. "I just wanted to see her succeed."

But when Baiye finally reached the front of the line, there was a problem. Poll workers couldn't find his name on their list of registered voters. This was puzzling: Baiye is a citizen, he wasn't a felon, and he hadn't moved.
What Baiye didn't know was he'd been caught up in one of the most hotly debated campaign issues in Georgia. It turned out that a year earlier Baiye had been removed from the voter rolls in a purge led by the office of Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp, who was running for governor against Abrams.

On a single day in late July 2017, Kemp's office had removed from the rolls 560,000 Georgians who had been flagged because they'd skipped one too many elections. Abrams would later call the purge the "use-it-or-lose-it scheme." An APM Reports investigation last year estimated 107,000 of the people purged under the policy would otherwise have been eligible to vote last year, just like Baiye.

https://www.apmreports.org/story/2019/10/29/georgia-voting-registration-records-removed

The Georgia secretary of state’s office paid $30,000 to resolve a lawsuit over the state’s role in Crosscheck, a defunct program for canceling voter registrations.
The settlement ended the lawsuit, but the plaintiffs didn’t get what they had sought: records showing that Gov. Brian Kemp, when he was secretary of state, had used Crosscheck to cancel Georgia voters.
Though Georgia election officials contributed voter information to other states that participated in Crosscheck, they said they never used it on their own voters. They said the cancellations of 534,000 Georgia voter registrations in 2017 and 287,000 registrations in 2019 were done separately from Crosscheck.
The settlement was obtained Friday by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution through the Georgia Open Records Act.
The Crosscheck program, which ended in 2019, collected voter registration lists from Georgia and other states to identify potentially invalid and duplicative registrations. Voting rights groups have criticized Crosscheck for inaccuracies that erroneously flagged legitimate voters.
Greg Palast, a journalist who filed the lawsuit against Kemp, said it verified that Georgia participated in the effort to remove voters in dozens of states. Crosscheck was led by then-Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, and Georgia enrolled in the program from 2013 to 2017.
“They can’t deny they were part of the Crosscheck program,” Palast said. “The Georgia list, we know for 100% certain, was used to purge voters in other states.

The settlement in September also required Georgia to disclose, if possible, voter registration records provided to the state through the Crosscheck program.
But neither Georgia nor Kansas’ secretary of state’s office still had a copy of the 2016 and 2017 Crosscheck lists sought by the lawsuit. The lists were destroyed in accordance with a memorandum of understanding between the states, Kansas’ elections director wrote in an email to attorneys for the Georgia secretary of state’s office.

https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.ajc.com/politics/lawsuit-over-georgias-participation-in-crosscheck-purge-program-settled/MVC26T6QIFDCDH2PC6WX7ZYXO4/

Recommendations

12 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

I was shocked when Trump won. applegrove Monday #1
Trump had a disastrous final two weeks or so Polybius Monday #31
The elections change in nature every time. Social media applegrove Monday #43
She did win it was rigged and stolen kimbutgar Monday #2
Still waiting for Palast to prove even one of his claims. Wiz Imp Monday #22
It will be in the same episode when he finds Bigfoot Bonx Monday #37
Or the episode HowSpecialIsThis Monday #54
He is right about voter suppression tulipsandroses Monday #44
Yes, everyone knows that voter suppression is the primary election strategy for Republicans. Wiz Imp Monday #45
Palast can't explain how a state like Michigan, with Dems controlling nearly all statewide offices and the legislature, MichMan Monday #48
What would proof look like to you. Just wondering, KPN Monday #49
Some examples Wiz Imp Monday #58
You gotta drop you delusions at some point hueymahl Monday #52
Me too Mad_Machine76 Monday #3
Did the Republicans rig it The Wizard Tuesday #76
I was shocked as well JBTaurus83 Monday #4
When asked the question about what she would do different than Biden, she said "nothing" MichMan Monday #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Tuesday #63
Throw him under the bus if that's what it takes to win Shrek Tuesday #72
Agreed, but her loyalty to Biden was the reason most often given in explanation. MichMan Tuesday #81
The American people drmeow Monday #5
That played a big part, but I am not 100% convinced that there wasn't some skulldugery here, and there that threw it... electric_blue68 Monday #10
Oh, there DEFINITLY drmeow Monday #11
Absolutely THIS(!!!!!) as well! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 electric_blue68 Monday #14
It is more than that PhilosopherKing Monday #38
We lived in an idiocracy drmeow Monday #41
sooner of later the truth will out stillcool Monday #6
I believe on occasion some people Can be persuaded. electric_blue68 Monday #17
thanks...indeed stillcool Monday #21
One of the most startling to me (read on line) was a KKKer renouncing his beliefs. electric_blue68 Monday #23
Ohhh, I certainly have my mins, and hours of that. Then I crawl out of it. electric_blue68 Monday #24
thanks stillcool Monday #25
Yw. We have to try, and hold each other up, as we can. electric_blue68 Monday #27
YouGov poll came out last week womanofthehills Monday #35
Not True Wiz Imp Monday #42
A guy who orchestrated an insurrection to overthrow Emile Monday #7
What I don't get.... Blue Owl Monday #8
The one thing he cannot cheat himself out of... rasputin1952 Tuesday #87
November 6th Mme. Defarge Monday #9
I am convinced Kamala did win. Clouds Passing Monday #12
Sadly, I think it just came down to inflation. Elessar Zappa Monday #13
Yes and no misanthrope Tuesday #60
Post removed Post removed Tuesday #65
I'm not sure. WaPo did a blind study with voters showing both Harris and Trump policies in late October. Lonestarblue Tuesday #84
... other factors such as racism, ant-immigrant sentiments, and misogyny. Mariana Tuesday #88
We were sitting in a bubble. LisaL Monday #15
When Biden dropped out DeepWinter Monday #56
My feelings exactly. I think initially Biden had a better chance. LisaL Tuesday #59
No, I think it was that moment in the debate when he couldn't answer Trump and he just blanked out... CTyankee Tuesday #62
Most Americans have a very short attention span. LisaL Tuesday #64
I know I just had a sick feeling at the time and so did members of my family, all very active Dems... CTyankee Tuesday #66
"Something terribly wrong" mr715 Tuesday #86
Have they ever explained what happened in the first Biden-Trump debate? samsingh Tuesday #82
I would have bet on it volfan Monday #16
Sexism, along with Racism played a Major Part! 🤬 electric_blue68 Monday #18
I was positive women and young voters would carry Harris to victory Kaleva Monday #19
There were "warning signs" but THE WAY FORWARD (DU sub forum) is the place to discuss them. WarGamer Monday #20
Yeah, I felt the same way with Abram's situation with Kemp & Beto versus Cruz/Abbot SunImp Monday #26
The problem is democrats need to follow the republican kacekwl Monday #28
Doesn't that give you pause about the media/information you consume? RockRaven Monday #29
Post removed Post removed Monday #30
The final polls were close, and Nate Silver put it as a toss-up Polybius Monday #32
I knew we had a disaster in the making when LisaL Monday #34
It was the strangest bandwagon thing ever! LeftInTX Tuesday #69
Everything i read on the sites I visit, the tv programs i watch, and the pundits i listen to said: "relax, she has this. MichMan Monday #36
***WRONG MESSAGE*** Telling people who are spending 33% more on food and home insurance then ... uponit7771 Monday #39
I wasn't convinced she was going to win. I was convinced we had a better chance that we didn't have with Joe Biden In It to Win It Monday #40
I Was Not Convinced Baron2024 Monday #46
I was optimistic enough to buy 4 different cat lady blue wave... 3catwoman3 Monday #47
I know the feeling. I'm getting new shirts that say Don't blame me. I voted for Her tulipsandroses Monday #55
If I were to be traveling outside the US, I would... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #83
I knew it wasn't in the bag Skittles Monday #50
In the US, misogyny is Bettie Monday #51
We as a party are old Buzz cook Monday #53
Republicans were confident they were going to win a year before the doc03 Monday #57
Not me, I was sure she was not going to win. nt Raine Tuesday #61
We were not totally shocked/ surprised Meowmee Tuesday #67
Same here malaise Tuesday #68
I thought she would win. I keep real busy with coordinated campaigns to elect Democrats up and down the ballot. LeftInTX Tuesday #70
Like you, I just didn't want to picture Trump winning again. LisaL Tuesday #73
I "couldn't picture it". I also "couldn't picture" Hillary winning. Intuition thing. LeftInTX Tuesday #74
I was certain she was going to win PennRalphie Tuesday #71
Kamala called Trump a fascist. LeftInTX Tuesday #75
Musk Johnny2X2X Tuesday #77
She was ahead 11% in Iowa Dumpy Tuesday #78
you want to tax the rich. Conjuay Tuesday #79
Simple. As always, he cheated. Erased our votes. And Dems rolled over. MaeScott Tuesday #80
I had the feeling some time after her debate that the media started to ignore her... TrunKated Tuesday #85
I was totally shocked and I can't believe there wasn't something funky going on in the background. Vinca Tuesday #89
It was the most unusual election of my lifetime MichMan Tuesday #90
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»i was convinced Kamala wa...»Reply #44