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In reply to the discussion: i was convinced Kamala was going to win [View all]tulipsandroses
(6,644 posts)44. He is right about voter suppression
We Georgians know that first hand from 2018 when Kemp stole the election from Stacey. Abrams. Along with fighting against the RW propaganda machine, we need to fight against voter suppression. Raffensperger, continued where Kemp left off. Although they would not go along with trump's scheme in 20, they are no heroes of democracy.
The question is, did the purges affect the outcome? It did in 2018 for the GA Gov race.
I do think that the media at large should be doing serious investigative work on this issue.
After the Purge
How a massive voter purge in Georgia affected the 2018 election
State officials claimed that people removed from the voter rolls for inactivity had likely died or moved away. But an APM Reports investigation found tens of thousands who hadn't and still wanted to vote.
On Election Day 2018, James Baiye II drove to Lucerne Baptist Church in the same suburban Atlanta neighborhood where he'd been registered to vote for most of his adult life. He dropped his brother and elderly mother at the front door, parked the car and got in line. Though he'd been registered for years, the 31-year-old African American hadn't been a frequent voter. He'd spent a few years playing football at a junior college in North Carolina. In 2012, Baiye says, he requested an absentee ballot but there's no record of it in the state's voter file. In fact, he hadn't cast an in-person ballot since 2008, when Barack Obama first ran for president.
This year was different. He'd become excited about candidacy of Stacey Abrams, the Democrat who was vying to become Georgia's first African-American governor, and the nation's first-ever black woman to lead a U.S. state. It wasn't Abrams' race that swayed Baiye, he said, but rather her pledge to run the government differently. "A lot of being there for the people," he said. "I just wanted to see her succeed."
But when Baiye finally reached the front of the line, there was a problem. Poll workers couldn't find his name on their list of registered voters. This was puzzling: Baiye is a citizen, he wasn't a felon, and he hadn't moved.
What Baiye didn't know was he'd been caught up in one of the most hotly debated campaign issues in Georgia. It turned out that a year earlier Baiye had been removed from the voter rolls in a purge led by the office of Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp, who was running for governor against Abrams.
On a single day in late July 2017, Kemp's office had removed from the rolls 560,000 Georgians who had been flagged because they'd skipped one too many elections. Abrams would later call the purge the "use-it-or-lose-it scheme." An APM Reports investigation last year estimated 107,000 of the people purged under the policy would otherwise have been eligible to vote last year, just like Baiye.
https://www.apmreports.org/story/2019/10/29/georgia-voting-registration-records-removed
The Georgia secretary of states office paid $30,000 to resolve a lawsuit over the states role in Crosscheck, a defunct program for canceling voter registrations.
The settlement ended the lawsuit, but the plaintiffs didnt get what they had sought: records showing that Gov. Brian Kemp, when he was secretary of state, had used Crosscheck to cancel Georgia voters.
Though Georgia election officials contributed voter information to other states that participated in Crosscheck, they said they never used it on their own voters. They said the cancellations of 534,000 Georgia voter registrations in 2017 and 287,000 registrations in 2019 were done separately from Crosscheck.
The settlement was obtained Friday by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution through the Georgia Open Records Act.
The Crosscheck program, which ended in 2019, collected voter registration lists from Georgia and other states to identify potentially invalid and duplicative registrations. Voting rights groups have criticized Crosscheck for inaccuracies that erroneously flagged legitimate voters.
Greg Palast, a journalist who filed the lawsuit against Kemp, said it verified that Georgia participated in the effort to remove voters in dozens of states. Crosscheck was led by then-Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, and Georgia enrolled in the program from 2013 to 2017.
They cant deny they were part of the Crosscheck program, Palast said. The Georgia list, we know for 100% certain, was used to purge voters in other states.
The settlement in September also required Georgia to disclose, if possible, voter registration records provided to the state through the Crosscheck program.
But neither Georgia nor Kansas secretary of states office still had a copy of the 2016 and 2017 Crosscheck lists sought by the lawsuit. The lists were destroyed in accordance with a memorandum of understanding between the states, Kansas elections director wrote in an email to attorneys for the Georgia secretary of states office.
https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.ajc.com/politics/lawsuit-over-georgias-participation-in-crosscheck-purge-program-settled/MVC26T6QIFDCDH2PC6WX7ZYXO4/
How a massive voter purge in Georgia affected the 2018 election
State officials claimed that people removed from the voter rolls for inactivity had likely died or moved away. But an APM Reports investigation found tens of thousands who hadn't and still wanted to vote.
On Election Day 2018, James Baiye II drove to Lucerne Baptist Church in the same suburban Atlanta neighborhood where he'd been registered to vote for most of his adult life. He dropped his brother and elderly mother at the front door, parked the car and got in line. Though he'd been registered for years, the 31-year-old African American hadn't been a frequent voter. He'd spent a few years playing football at a junior college in North Carolina. In 2012, Baiye says, he requested an absentee ballot but there's no record of it in the state's voter file. In fact, he hadn't cast an in-person ballot since 2008, when Barack Obama first ran for president.
This year was different. He'd become excited about candidacy of Stacey Abrams, the Democrat who was vying to become Georgia's first African-American governor, and the nation's first-ever black woman to lead a U.S. state. It wasn't Abrams' race that swayed Baiye, he said, but rather her pledge to run the government differently. "A lot of being there for the people," he said. "I just wanted to see her succeed."
But when Baiye finally reached the front of the line, there was a problem. Poll workers couldn't find his name on their list of registered voters. This was puzzling: Baiye is a citizen, he wasn't a felon, and he hadn't moved.
What Baiye didn't know was he'd been caught up in one of the most hotly debated campaign issues in Georgia. It turned out that a year earlier Baiye had been removed from the voter rolls in a purge led by the office of Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp, who was running for governor against Abrams.
On a single day in late July 2017, Kemp's office had removed from the rolls 560,000 Georgians who had been flagged because they'd skipped one too many elections. Abrams would later call the purge the "use-it-or-lose-it scheme." An APM Reports investigation last year estimated 107,000 of the people purged under the policy would otherwise have been eligible to vote last year, just like Baiye.
https://www.apmreports.org/story/2019/10/29/georgia-voting-registration-records-removed
The Georgia secretary of states office paid $30,000 to resolve a lawsuit over the states role in Crosscheck, a defunct program for canceling voter registrations.
The settlement ended the lawsuit, but the plaintiffs didnt get what they had sought: records showing that Gov. Brian Kemp, when he was secretary of state, had used Crosscheck to cancel Georgia voters.
Though Georgia election officials contributed voter information to other states that participated in Crosscheck, they said they never used it on their own voters. They said the cancellations of 534,000 Georgia voter registrations in 2017 and 287,000 registrations in 2019 were done separately from Crosscheck.
The settlement was obtained Friday by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution through the Georgia Open Records Act.
The Crosscheck program, which ended in 2019, collected voter registration lists from Georgia and other states to identify potentially invalid and duplicative registrations. Voting rights groups have criticized Crosscheck for inaccuracies that erroneously flagged legitimate voters.
Greg Palast, a journalist who filed the lawsuit against Kemp, said it verified that Georgia participated in the effort to remove voters in dozens of states. Crosscheck was led by then-Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, and Georgia enrolled in the program from 2013 to 2017.
They cant deny they were part of the Crosscheck program, Palast said. The Georgia list, we know for 100% certain, was used to purge voters in other states.
The settlement in September also required Georgia to disclose, if possible, voter registration records provided to the state through the Crosscheck program.
But neither Georgia nor Kansas secretary of states office still had a copy of the 2016 and 2017 Crosscheck lists sought by the lawsuit. The lists were destroyed in accordance with a memorandum of understanding between the states, Kansas elections director wrote in an email to attorneys for the Georgia secretary of states office.
https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.ajc.com/politics/lawsuit-over-georgias-participation-in-crosscheck-purge-program-settled/MVC26T6QIFDCDH2PC6WX7ZYXO4/
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Yes, everyone knows that voter suppression is the primary election strategy for Republicans.
Wiz Imp
Monday
#45
Palast can't explain how a state like Michigan, with Dems controlling nearly all statewide offices and the legislature,
MichMan
Monday
#48
When asked the question about what she would do different than Biden, she said "nothing"
MichMan
Monday
#33
Agreed, but her loyalty to Biden was the reason most often given in explanation.
MichMan
Tuesday
#81
That played a big part, but I am not 100% convinced that there wasn't some skulldugery here, and there that threw it...
electric_blue68
Monday
#10
One of the most startling to me (read on line) was a KKKer renouncing his beliefs.
electric_blue68
Monday
#23
Ohhh, I certainly have my mins, and hours of that. Then I crawl out of it.
electric_blue68
Monday
#24
I'm not sure. WaPo did a blind study with voters showing both Harris and Trump policies in late October.
Lonestarblue
Tuesday
#84
No, I think it was that moment in the debate when he couldn't answer Trump and he just blanked out...
CTyankee
Tuesday
#62
I know I just had a sick feeling at the time and so did members of my family, all very active Dems...
CTyankee
Tuesday
#66
There were "warning signs" but THE WAY FORWARD (DU sub forum) is the place to discuss them.
WarGamer
Monday
#20
Yeah, I felt the same way with Abram's situation with Kemp & Beto versus Cruz/Abbot
SunImp
Monday
#26
Everything i read on the sites I visit, the tv programs i watch, and the pundits i listen to said: "relax, she has this.
MichMan
Monday
#36
***WRONG MESSAGE*** Telling people who are spending 33% more on food and home insurance then ...
uponit7771
Monday
#39
I wasn't convinced she was going to win. I was convinced we had a better chance that we didn't have with Joe Biden
In It to Win It
Monday
#40
I know the feeling. I'm getting new shirts that say Don't blame me. I voted for Her
tulipsandroses
Monday
#55
I thought she would win. I keep real busy with coordinated campaigns to elect Democrats up and down the ballot.
LeftInTX
Tuesday
#70
I "couldn't picture it". I also "couldn't picture" Hillary winning. Intuition thing.
LeftInTX
Tuesday
#74
I had the feeling some time after her debate that the media started to ignore her...
TrunKated
Tuesday
#85