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LiberalLoner

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11. I'm so sorry. I will try to summarize.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 11:07 AM
Thursday

The jet plane requested a different runway right before landing, on approach to DCA.

Most of the time runway 1 is used. The busiest runway in the US.

The plane saw that runway 1 was in use so asked to use runway 33 which is not used as commonly and which seems to be an area mostly used for helicopter traffic etc.

Plane had to bank and circle to use newly requested runway, which means when the helo looked, he may have assumed plane was going to runway one as usual or helo pilot may have visually identified another landing plan since it is so congested. Pilot may have had his eye in the wrong plane, looked the wrong way, never saw the plane going to runway 33.

ATC had reassurance from the helo that the pilot had the plane in sight so ATC thought everything was okay until BAM.


Night goggles may have been used but because of all the lights, may have done more harm than good, if used.

The anti collision systems are normally turned off or muted on approach to the airport, because it would go ping ping ping constantly due to other planes and planes on the ground, making it impossible to hear ATC, etc. So when they get down below 400 feet and seconds from landing, which was the case in this tragedy, collision alerting would have been disabled, providing no help.

All of this is conjecture and the pilot says could be totally wrong but it seemed as plausible an explanation as any I have seen.

I hope someone else will provide a better summary in case I got it wrong or left something out.

Thank you UpInArms Thursday #1
❤️🌹 I know so many want to understand how on earth this tragedy could have occurred. 😭 LiberalLoner Thursday #2
Interesting. Thanks for posting. Peregrine Took Thursday #3
Yes, I had read that on twitter too, thank you for sharing that! ❤️ LiberalLoner Thursday #5
Like he said Mountainguy Thursday #14
Training flight Old Okie Thursday #23
Exactly exboyfil Thursday #28
Couldn't' they see the plane though at some point? Meowmee Thursday #42
Just never saw it Mountainguy Thursday #44
Yeah, I guess there were a lot of other planes or whatever Meowmee Thursday #45
I think there Mountainguy Thursday #48
Yes sounds like something like that Meowmee Thursday #50
My dad worked in aviation and one of his planes was involved in a midair collision. LeftInTX Thursday #52
images Ptah Thursday #4
Thank you so so so much for doing this and making it easier for people to read! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ LiberalLoner Thursday #6
Not easier for everyone.... pinkstarburst Thursday #8
Me too claudette Thursday #27
Could you please summarize for those of us with vision problems? pinkstarburst Thursday #7
Images: Ptah Thursday #9
That doesn't help me. I see a black wall of nothing. pinkstarburst Thursday #13
I can't help you. Ptah Thursday #17
#1 cut and paste G_j Thursday #46
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#3 G_j Thursday #49
Thank you so much! pinkstarburst Thursday #51
Thank you so much! ❤️ LiberalLoner Thursday #54
I'm so sorry. I will try to summarize. LiberalLoner Thursday #11
Thank you so much for writing that out. 💕💕 pinkstarburst Thursday #15
You too! A little weepy today from everything, but I'm sure we all are. ❤️ LiberalLoner Thursday #19
Wow. Clearly Biden's fault. maxsolomon Thursday #31
It's Hillary and her emails fault. madinmaryland Thursday #34
Basically, the American plane was told intheflow Thursday #24
Thank you pinkstarburst Thursday #30
Thanks Deep State Witch Thursday #10
Yes it is the most difficult to navigate in the nation, I have read. LiberalLoner Thursday #12
My brother was a career Navy pilot, then a commercial pilot, then he designed flight decks. OMGWTF Thursday #37
Thank you for not linking BoRaGard Thursday #16
Another kind poster provided the actually screenshots for which I am very grateful. LiberalLoner Thursday #18
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From my limited understanding of TCAS... appmanga Thursday #20
This is correct. Basso8vb Thursday #29
If you get an imgur account you can post photos here directly. (photos visible below) sir pball Thursday #21
Thank you! ❤️ LiberalLoner Thursday #41
Why is a Blackhawk even in that airspace? KatyBR Thursday #22
Seems to me that having helicopters moniss Thursday #25
I'm a retired Navy helo pilot pfitz59 Thursday #33
I hear you but I will maintain that if moniss Thursday #38
Thank-you for posting this Blue_Roses Thursday #26
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1. DCA was my crew base for most of my career as a pilot for a major US airline. Bo Zarts Thursday #35
Thank you. You are right. LiberalLoner Thursday #43
You are 100% correct! Jamesm9164 Thursday #53
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