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Showing Original Post only (View all)Getting rid of the penny introduces a new problem: nickels [View all]
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/10/business/costs-of-pennies-and-nickels/index.html
Trump actually undersold the cost argument pennies cost more than 3 cents to produce.
But theres a problem with his plan: Phasing out the penny could result in needing to make more nickels, and the US Treasury Department loses far more money on every nickel than it does on every penny.
Without the penny, the volume of nickels in circulation would have to rise to fill the gap in small-value transactions. Far from saving money, eliminating the penny shifts and amplifies the financial burden, said American for Common Cents, a pro-penny group funded primarily by Artazn, the company that has the contract to provide the blanks used to make pennies.
According to the latest annual report from the US Mint, each penny cost 3.7 cents to make, including the 3 cents for production costs, and 0.7 cents per coin for administrative and distribution costs. But each nickel costs 13.8 cents, with 11 cents of production costs and 2.8 cents of administrative and distribution costs. These figures are for the governments fiscal year, which ends on September.
During that fiscal year, the Mint tried to cut those losses by making far fewer nickels only 202 million, down 86% from the 1.4 billion nickels it minted in each of the two previous years. Thats also far less than the 3.2 billon pennies it made in 2024 and the 4.1 billion it made in 2023 and 5.4 billion it made in 2022.
Trump actually undersold the cost argument pennies cost more than 3 cents to produce.
But theres a problem with his plan: Phasing out the penny could result in needing to make more nickels, and the US Treasury Department loses far more money on every nickel than it does on every penny.
Without the penny, the volume of nickels in circulation would have to rise to fill the gap in small-value transactions. Far from saving money, eliminating the penny shifts and amplifies the financial burden, said American for Common Cents, a pro-penny group funded primarily by Artazn, the company that has the contract to provide the blanks used to make pennies.
According to the latest annual report from the US Mint, each penny cost 3.7 cents to make, including the 3 cents for production costs, and 0.7 cents per coin for administrative and distribution costs. But each nickel costs 13.8 cents, with 11 cents of production costs and 2.8 cents of administrative and distribution costs. These figures are for the governments fiscal year, which ends on September.
During that fiscal year, the Mint tried to cut those losses by making far fewer nickels only 202 million, down 86% from the 1.4 billion nickels it minted in each of the two previous years. Thats also far less than the 3.2 billon pennies it made in 2024 and the 4.1 billion it made in 2023 and 5.4 billion it made in 2022.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/10/business/costs-of-pennies-and-nickels/index.html
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The penny situation is a lot like the Daylight Savings/Standard Time issue.
Tommy Carcetti
Feb 10
#4
That right there scares me more than anything. What happens when the electricity goes out, esp. in blue states.
ancianita
Feb 10
#40
I understand what you are saying, but I'm all business when it comes to investing
Polybius
Feb 10
#31
Do you know how many people said the same thing, and instead tried to find the next Bitcoin, and lost everything?
W_HAMILTON
Feb 10
#34
Another stupid red herring to distract and solve nothing. Why haven't you lowered prices Donnie?!?!?
dutch777
Feb 10
#10
He's a showman. Everything he does is just a show to entertain stupid people who don't understand it
IronLionZion
Feb 10
#14
It doesn't seem sustainable to make coins that cost more to produce than they are worth.
iemanja
Feb 10
#12
they get spent again and again - one dime can buy thousands of dollars during its lifetime
Blues Heron
Feb 10
#17
Yep. It's the same reason it doesn't necessarily make sense to eliminate the penny just because it costs more...
W_HAMILTON
Feb 10
#37
IIRC during WWll some pennies were made of a lead alloy...they were actually dark gray in color.
brush
Feb 10
#18
OK, doesn't the constitution give the legislative branch the sole responsibility of minting coins?
Native
Feb 10
#23
It's like they didn't think this out. I don't like pennies but many people rely on them
underpants
Feb 10
#33
MaddowBlog-Trump's pennies order adds to list of legally dubious power grabs
LetMyPeopleVote
Feb 10
#52
For heaven's sake, just give me all the pennies and nickels and we'll call it even.
GreenWave
Feb 10
#55
In an increasingly digital payment system, how do we need 1.4 BILLION nickels a year?
bucolic_frolic
Feb 10
#57
This makes no logical sense..any transaction should involve no more than one nickel
JT45242
Feb 10
#65
It's more like the prices that end in $.99 will now have to end in $.95 or $.00
IronLionZion
Feb 10
#66
That only applies when one is buying one of something plus sales taxes factor in.
MichMan
Feb 10
#71
CNN's 1st report says Trump wants to stop *minting* new pennies; then they call that "phasing it out"
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 10
#77
Switzerland got rid of its 1 centime coin in 2007; some Euro countries barely use theirs
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 10
#79