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In reply to the discussion: Getting rid of the penny introduces a new problem: nickels [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(159,685 posts)52. MaddowBlog-Trump's pennies order adds to list of legally dubious power grabs
Even if Trump's position on pennies has merit, what matters most is his willingness to make unilateral policy declarations outside of his authority.
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When Donald Trump swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, perhaps he brushed past this detail. The Associated Press reported:
President Donald Trump says he has directed the Treasury Department to stop minting new pennies, citing the rising cost of producing the one-cent coin. ... Trump had not discussed his desire to eliminate the penny during his campaign. But Elon Musks so-called Department of Government Efficiency raised the prospect in a post on X last month highlighting the pennys cost.
As the Republican left New Orleans after watching the first half of the Super Bowl, he wrote to his social media platform, For far too long the United States has minted pennies which literally cost us more than 2 cents. This is so wasteful! I have instructed my Secretary of the US Treasury to stop producing new pennies. Lets rip the waste out of our great nations [sic] budget, even if its a penny at a time.......
But whether one supports or opposes sticking with the penny is separate from the question of governmental power. Penny critics have spent recent years pressing lawmakers on this for the most obvious of reasons: Its up to Congress to make decisions about U.S. currencies.
Even if Trumps underlying position has merit and it very well might what arguably matters most in a situation like this isnt about pennies, as much as its about the president unilaterally making a policy declaration outside of his authority.
In other words, presidential power-grabs matter, even if theyre in pursuit of worthwhile policy goals.
A New York magazine report added, Like so many other things Trump has said or tried to do since retaking office, its not clear if he can legally [order the Treasury to stop making pennies]. It would probably require an act of Congress to fully discontinue the coin, since Congress dictates Americas currency specifications. But as with so many other things, Trump may just try to do it anyway.
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The penny situation is a lot like the Daylight Savings/Standard Time issue.
Tommy Carcetti
Feb 10
#4
That right there scares me more than anything. What happens when the electricity goes out, esp. in blue states.
ancianita
Feb 10
#40
I understand what you are saying, but I'm all business when it comes to investing
Polybius
Feb 10
#31
Do you know how many people said the same thing, and instead tried to find the next Bitcoin, and lost everything?
W_HAMILTON
Feb 10
#34
Another stupid red herring to distract and solve nothing. Why haven't you lowered prices Donnie?!?!?
dutch777
Feb 10
#10
He's a showman. Everything he does is just a show to entertain stupid people who don't understand it
IronLionZion
Feb 10
#14
It doesn't seem sustainable to make coins that cost more to produce than they are worth.
iemanja
Feb 10
#12
they get spent again and again - one dime can buy thousands of dollars during its lifetime
Blues Heron
Feb 10
#17
Yep. It's the same reason it doesn't necessarily make sense to eliminate the penny just because it costs more...
W_HAMILTON
Feb 10
#37
IIRC during WWll some pennies were made of a lead alloy...they were actually dark gray in color.
brush
Feb 10
#18
OK, doesn't the constitution give the legislative branch the sole responsibility of minting coins?
Native
Feb 10
#23
It's like they didn't think this out. I don't like pennies but many people rely on them
underpants
Feb 10
#33
MaddowBlog-Trump's pennies order adds to list of legally dubious power grabs
LetMyPeopleVote
Feb 10
#52
For heaven's sake, just give me all the pennies and nickels and we'll call it even.
GreenWave
Feb 10
#55
In an increasingly digital payment system, how do we need 1.4 BILLION nickels a year?
bucolic_frolic
Feb 10
#57
This makes no logical sense..any transaction should involve no more than one nickel
JT45242
Feb 10
#65
It's more like the prices that end in $.99 will now have to end in $.95 or $.00
IronLionZion
Feb 10
#66
That only applies when one is buying one of something plus sales taxes factor in.
MichMan
Feb 10
#71
CNN's 1st report says Trump wants to stop *minting* new pennies; then they call that "phasing it out"
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 10
#77
Switzerland got rid of its 1 centime coin in 2007; some Euro countries barely use theirs
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 10
#79