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CTyankee

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90. It was that terrible moment during the debate when Biden seemed lost and even Trump did a double take.

Fri Feb 14, 2025, 05:30 PM

Feb 14

I was with my husband and we were stricken with fear for what had happened to our president. Then he spoke a few words that didn't come out right and then I think they went to break. He seemed so lost and fragile at that moment.

I can't speak for anyone else here but I was afraid. First, I thought we might lose him, then we just waited until he and his staff had made that decision for him to bow out and have Kamila take over. I cannot tell you how much hope I had for her. She clearly out-debated him. He started talking about Haitians eating the dogs and other family pets and she looked at him with alarm and then a smile of "what the hell are you talking about?"

Then, after she took over I was elated beyond belief. I truly believed she would win and be our first woman president. My husband was more subdued but also a dedicated Dem all his life. We are elderly and thought that at long last a dream had come true: a liberal woman in the White House as our first POTUS.

In many ways I am still in mourning for our party's loss.

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President Biden was dumped for no reason [View all] EnergizedLib Feb 14 OP

Inflation may have been an out of control problem. Omnipresent Feb 14 #1

the "open borders" was mostly bs anyway rampartd Feb 14 #4

Border crossings were not bs, tho. Self Esteem Feb 14 #61

Illegal immigration had been down during Biden's term and arrests were up. travelingthrulife Feb 14 #67

This just isn't true. Self Esteem Feb 14 #71

There is a huge difference in "border crossings" and total undocumented living here. Border crossings were down under B Jit423 Feb 14 #81

Border crossings and undocumented people living here were both up under Biden. Self Esteem Feb 14 #105

Most undocumented in U.S don't come across southern border TimeToGo Feb 15 #116

Irrelevant to my point. Border crossings and those living here illegally were up under Biden. Self Esteem Feb 18 #137

The # of apprehensions reflects the PERCENTAGE of people arrested, not simply spooky3 Feb 14 #115

This is just not true. pinkstarburst Feb 14 #92

Then why did Trump sabotaged the bipartisan bill Owens Feb 14 #103

If it was going to be such a win for Democrats, why didn't Biden do it when he had both the House and Senate? Self Esteem Feb 18 #138

Apprehensions are not "crossings". eom PAMod Feb 14 #114

Apprehensions are not arrests either MichMan Feb 15 #124

I think Dems fatal flaw is that they give people too much credit for being decent. Trueblue Texan Feb 14 #10

Stop wearing boxing gloves to a knife fight.(NT) The Wizard Feb 14 #17

Your first sentence is a badge of honor. rubbersole Feb 14 #30

"Biden Old" Should Have Been "Putin's Puppet Steals and Sells Nation's Secrets." The_Counsel Feb 14 #58

Good way to go extinct as a party in the current landscape. BannonsLiver Feb 18 #140

The gender issue is still a big factor. We're one of the few G-7 or G-20 nations never to have a woman pres/pm. brush Feb 14 #56

I'm thinking the recent inflation uptick is cos "Tariffs". mwooldri Feb 14 #83

The people who fall for the con MadameButterfly Feb 14 #2

Don't waste your time. Hate is what drives them. Meadowoak Feb 14 #5

They love their hate Seinan Sensei Feb 14 #48

Thats true of many of them but MadameButterfly Feb 14 #84

They preface it with "I'm not political" in an effort to pretend Bettie Feb 14 #23

Your words are very true. In the past "Internet Years", I've tried to understand... chouchou Feb 14 #25

You CAN'T reach them. They are lost, completely lost. valleyrogue Feb 14 #59

As for the people we should be trying to reach MadameButterfly Feb 14 #86

You are correct, by and large h2ebits Feb 14 #79

Exactly Cosmocat Feb 14 #3

They sold America out EnergizedLib Feb 14 #7

They sold out their country for a red hat. mtngirl47 Feb 14 #13

They wanted trans-women banned from sports Johonny Feb 14 #44

And now, all those white women are discovering Bettie Feb 14 #80

if "they" could watch both men on a debate stage and not conclude that 1 of them was stark raving mad rampartd Feb 14 #8

Nicolle Wallace and Claire McCaskill come to mind. yorkster Feb 14 #28

Pres Biden shouldve kept to his 2020 prediction & we shouldve had a real primary. Callie1979 Feb 14 #6

What difference would it make ? JI7 Feb 14 #11

I doubt Harris would have won the primary, but whoever won would have been ELECTED Martin Eden Feb 14 #14

I do not agree, Butterflylady Feb 14 #20

I sincerely doubt Musk would swing the election to Trump in a scenario with an open Dem primary Martin Eden Feb 14 #37

Nancy Pelosi is not wise. The others are not wise. suegeo Feb 14 #60

Wisdom is relative. Pelosi ranks high among Democratic House leaders. Martin Eden Feb 14 #66

Pelosi said with great certainty in an interview a few days before the election that we would win the house. Intractable Feb 14 #95

Well said & accurate. Callie1979 Feb 14 #65

You're probably correct Martin Eden Feb 14 #70

Kamala absolutely would have won. W_HAMILTON Feb 14 #85

So then, any discussion of what went wrong or could have done differently is a "pout"? Martin Eden Feb 14 #97

+1 Yorkie Mom Feb 15 #117

She won her debate. Biden did horribly. Thats why he left. She was hamstrung from the jump Callie1979 Feb 14 #24

I agree 90-percent Feb 14 #33

Transitional didn't necessarily mean 1 term ITAL Feb 14 #69

The definition is literally passage or change from one state to another. Callie1979 Feb 15 #126

Well ITAL Feb 15 #127

I agree with this pinkstarburst Feb 14 #94

The election was stolen, gab13by13 Feb 14 #9

And I fear future ones will be too. Scrivener7 Feb 14 #12

Of course they will Bettie Feb 14 #26

I have no doubt Scubamatt Feb 14 #39

The vote was hacked. SammyWinstonJack Feb 14 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author mr715 Feb 14 #53

The media stuck it to Biden while not reporting the bullshit from Trump. Was is fear or the plan? twodogsbarking Feb 14 #15

It was about viewership Seinan Sensei Feb 14 #50

Indeed. It's all about the "likes". twodogsbarking Feb 14 #64

The bigotry is strong, and The Wizard Feb 14 #16

Donald consistently campaigned on increasing prices IronLionZion Feb 14 #18

It shows you how small they really are EnergizedLib Feb 14 #22

I know, right. peacebuzzard Feb 14 #21

He should have distanced himself from Bibi ... LSparkle Feb 14 #27

"We finally beat Medicare!" Jose Garcia Feb 14 #29

Trump said and did things that were bat shit insane Keepthesoulalive Feb 14 #32

Trump looked unhinged but that's his bread and butter. Self Esteem Feb 14 #62

Biden did not run for president Keepthesoulalive Feb 14 #72

We're talking about Biden when he was running for president. Self Esteem Feb 14 #73

I as many other Americans did not watch the debate Keepthesoulalive Feb 14 #74

Yes. Just like a lot of people who didn't watch the Harris-Trump debate heard about Trump's craziness. Self Esteem Feb 14 #106

Put the blame where it belongs . Rich people bought this election. Keepthesoulalive Feb 14 #110

And look at the nonsense we have now EnergizedLib Feb 14 #35

Only the rich DownriverDem Feb 14 #31

President Biden was forced out PennRalphie Feb 14 #34

I agree with this post 100% True Blue American Feb 15 #120

The main reason Harris lost she is a woman of mixed race. Then the issues doc03 Feb 14 #36

And inflation hasn't been fixed EnergizedLib Feb 14 #38

When asked the question about what she would do different than Biden, she said "nothing" MichMan Feb 14 #77

She ran on turning the page and change Melon Feb 15 #121

All she had to say was GusBob Feb 15 #123

Unfortunately DENVERPOPS Feb 14 #91

He was dumped because of a consorted effort by the MSM to push him out. Anyone who viewed the media circus JohnSJ Feb 14 #40

It was never the price of eggs. GoYouPackersGo Feb 14 #41

Bull Raven123 Feb 14 #42

It wouldn't have mattered who ran Mr.Bee Feb 14 #43

The propaganda fed to the Palestinian supporters IS THE REASON we lost this election wolfie001 Feb 14 #45

I thought it was the majority of white people who voted for BaronChocula Feb 14 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author wolfie001 Feb 14 #98

I did say, "Too many racist dumbasses here in the US" wolfie001 Feb 14 #100

Imagine the reaction if Biden had spent 40 minutes Orange Buffoon Feb 14 #46

Considering my love of '60s music EnergizedLib Feb 14 #49

He was dumped for a very specific reason. He was about to get his ass handed to him. Iggo Feb 14 #47

It was that terrible moment during the debate when Biden seemed lost and even Trump did a double take. CTyankee Feb 14 #90

I too thought she was great and was certain that she would carry it. harumph Feb 14 #104

Dead internet (de)bait. ThreeNoSeep Feb 14 #51

Post removed Post removed Feb 14 #52

I mean, from a policy standpoint EnergizedLib Feb 14 #55

There were many reasons Bluetus Feb 14 #54

Thread winner imwo. Boomerproud Feb 14 #57

Gaza was devastating. Self Esteem Feb 14 #63

But we need to be clear. Gaza didn't just happen. Bluetus Feb 14 #78

If Biden would've done #1 on your list he Harris would lost by more standingtall Feb 15 #118

I was about to respond to your headline , but then realized Bluetus Feb 15 #130

Damn Bluetus GusBob Feb 15 #125

But Biden was losing every swing state... GreenWave Feb 14 #68

Well, the establishment went into panic mode and came up with reasons Patton French Feb 14 #75

Videos like this had voters question Biden's fitness to lead and fed Republicans' narrative of Biden DSandra Feb 14 #82

Well, we have plastic straws back at least. KPN Feb 14 #87

He was dumped because a right wing entertainment propaganda outlet appointed itself the 4th branch of the government. Initech Feb 14 #88

Also, you notice that the big name celebrities Bettie Feb 14 #101

Much inclined to agree... GoldenMezzoDiva Feb 14 #89

precisely... B.See Feb 14 #93

That's simply not true oldmanlynn Feb 14 #96

America has a problem understanding the 'D' in DEI. Aussie105 Feb 14 #99

Gas is up .50 a gallon since Scump's orange carcass rolled into town Hassler Feb 14 #102

Hasn't changed around here MichMan Feb 14 #108

Not really FBaggins Feb 14 #111

Is this revisiting the reasons why Trump is now in the White House doing anyone any good? Aussie105 Feb 14 #107

Not a bit FBaggins Feb 14 #112

Border Schmorder. That issue is pure racism. usonian Feb 14 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Feb 14 #113

Some of what you said makes sense but wishing for half our country to suffer wont get us anywhere mahina Feb 15 #119

I have no interest in liking terrible people EnergizedLib Feb 15 #122

Hating and wishing people to suffer is a different thing mahina Feb 15 #128

Respectfully, I do not care EnergizedLib Feb 15 #131

How do you imagine you will persuade them to join you to overcome this dictatorship? Or do you think we can do that mahina Feb 15 #132

How did trying to branch out to Republicans work in November? EnergizedLib Feb 15 #133

Sometimes it works, sometimes it takes a while. How do you think we are going to win without others? How did that work mahina Feb 15 #135

That's your prerogative EnergizedLib Feb 16 #136

The whole country is going to suffer, whether we want it or not. LisaL Feb 15 #134

Trump won because of the stupid and the disinterested. flvegan Feb 15 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Feb 18 #139