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In reply to the discussion: I know many, especially here... are upset about the situation in Ukraine. [View all]
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,400 posts)30. Where the hell have you been these last 40 years?
NATO has already expanded to Russia's doorstep and there is always a choice, despite what you may think.
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I know many, especially here... are upset about the situation in Ukraine. [View all]
WarGamer
Feb 2025
OP
Not pleasant, but it needs to end. I remember reading here as war started that it would end with Ukraine losing
Silent Type
Feb 2025
#1
Re: "Negotiations MUST include security guarantees from European allies and the US."
Mister Ed
Feb 2025
#2
Yeah, those guarantees aren't worth much. Especially with a Trump (or Vance) administration that tears up treaties
newdeal2
Feb 2025
#8
Not worth much is right..The 1994 Trilateral agreement said the west would protect Ukraine if they gave up
mitch96
Feb 2025
#11
That last sentence is the line being pumped by many Russian bots on Twitter right now,
Emrys
Feb 2025
#47
Groups of Ukrainian nationalists also aided the Nazis rounding up Jews in Ukraine in WW2.
WarGamer
Feb 2025
#53
There were also some Ukrainian nationalists who stood up to the Nazis and saved Jews
Tommy Carcetti
Feb 2025
#116
Huh...Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church! Who knew there was such a thing....
electric_blue68
Feb 2025
#122
THIS! My dad, and His dad (Ukrainian Immigrant) Hated The Soviet Union!
electric_blue68
Feb 2025
#120
So? Then they stopped wearing the same uniform, Ukraine became independent, and Russia invaded a sovereign country.
Scrivener7
Feb 2025
#33
But if the war Funding for Ukraine is stopped, then Most Likely the Whole Ukrainian State will be over run by Putin...
electric_blue68
Feb 2025
#123
"Here's what he's thinking. If he can end up with a Ukraine that's 30% smaller....."
Disaffected
Feb 2025
#4
Diplomatic action has been ongoing since the Budapest agreement in 1994. And it has been a disaster for Ukraine.
Beastly Boy
Feb 2025
#106
Russia lost the Cold war, unfortunately the Russian proletariat lost the peace that followed
Emrys
Feb 2025
#90
That Gish gallop has so many untruths in it that I just can't be bothered to respond,
Emrys
Feb 2025
#5
Exactly. My only remaining question is which side of the horseshoe it is coming from...
W_HAMILTON
Feb 2025
#34
One problem is that so many Ukrainians have been displaced from those areas or killed,
Emrys
Feb 2025
#13
That tends to happen after genocide and when you don't want to be part of it (see bold below)
Emrys
Feb 2025
#91
Ukraine already won the war. Russia will keep winning battles, but they are losing the war.
Beastly Boy
Feb 2025
#20
Beastly..I gotta. Say that your post helps with my depression over this issue..I didn't look at it from that perspective
Deuxcents
Feb 2025
#69
Jake Broe disagrees with you. He still sees a Russian economic or political collapse as more likely
Quixote1818
Feb 2025
#45
The Ukrainians have debunked that theory that Johnson was instrumental in their decision
Emrys
Feb 2025
#76
I've been plain with you about what I find objectionable - it's being categorical and predicting outcomes
Emrys
Feb 2025
#82
I infinitely enjoy interactions on DU... I've learned so much about topics I knew nothing about.
WarGamer
Feb 2025
#86
The "Wishcasting" seems to be going in both directions based on what others are saying about your previous posts
Quixote1818
Feb 2025
#57
I could fill a thread with reputable economists and analysts who've been predicting the same
Emrys
Feb 2025
#54
I didn't think Putin would invade Ukraine... didn't believe that we could see another European WW2 style conflict.
WarGamer
Feb 2025
#75
Or did you cherry-pick an article and post it here to further a pro-Russian narrative?
W_HAMILTON
Feb 2025
#83
Agree... I also think Ukraine will be wildly successful after the war is over.
WarGamer
Feb 2025
#72
What's really upsetting is that Elon Musk is the primary benefactor in all of this.
Initech
Feb 2025
#73
We will have to see if Europe and Nato allow Putin and the Mango Malefactor to dictate the terms of surrender to Ukraine
CentralMass
Feb 2025
#101
Germany delivering 6,000 HX-2 (swarm capable) AI attack drones to Ukraine
Red Mountain
Feb 2025
#107