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In reply to the discussion: I know many, especially here... are upset about the situation in Ukraine. [View all]
WarGamer
(18,200 posts)59. Just FYI...
Ever since I was so wrong about the invasion...
And let me clarify. I thought there was no way Putin could be SOOO STUUUPID to attack Ukraine.
It seemed as if the two sides were negotiating and they'd come up with some deal that Russia would accept.
Lo and behold... seems Boris Johnson was urging Zelenskyy to fight instead of negotiate. Hope we learn more after the war is over as I'd like to see more confirmation of this. The initial source is Ukrainian but I'd like to see more.
So yeah I was wrong about the invasion. But I've been right ever since... about the counter attack and the ineffective weapons being used... pretty much everything.
I spend a lot of time following this thing, it'd be embarrassing if I was consistently wrong.
Lots of people make the mistake of following solely Ukrainian or Russian sources.
Both sides have incentive to lie. Both sides lie. Gotta separate the wheat from the chaff.
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I know many, especially here... are upset about the situation in Ukraine. [View all]
WarGamer
Feb 2025
OP
Not pleasant, but it needs to end. I remember reading here as war started that it would end with Ukraine losing
Silent Type
Feb 2025
#1
Re: "Negotiations MUST include security guarantees from European allies and the US."
Mister Ed
Feb 2025
#2
Yeah, those guarantees aren't worth much. Especially with a Trump (or Vance) administration that tears up treaties
newdeal2
Feb 2025
#8
Not worth much is right..The 1994 Trilateral agreement said the west would protect Ukraine if they gave up
mitch96
Feb 2025
#11
That last sentence is the line being pumped by many Russian bots on Twitter right now,
Emrys
Feb 2025
#47
Groups of Ukrainian nationalists also aided the Nazis rounding up Jews in Ukraine in WW2.
WarGamer
Feb 2025
#53
There were also some Ukrainian nationalists who stood up to the Nazis and saved Jews
Tommy Carcetti
Feb 2025
#116
Huh...Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church! Who knew there was such a thing....
electric_blue68
Feb 2025
#122
THIS! My dad, and His dad (Ukrainian Immigrant) Hated The Soviet Union!
electric_blue68
Feb 2025
#120
So? Then they stopped wearing the same uniform, Ukraine became independent, and Russia invaded a sovereign country.
Scrivener7
Feb 2025
#33
But if the war Funding for Ukraine is stopped, then Most Likely the Whole Ukrainian State will be over run by Putin...
electric_blue68
Feb 2025
#123
"Here's what he's thinking. If he can end up with a Ukraine that's 30% smaller....."
Disaffected
Feb 2025
#4
Diplomatic action has been ongoing since the Budapest agreement in 1994. And it has been a disaster for Ukraine.
Beastly Boy
Feb 2025
#106
Russia lost the Cold war, unfortunately the Russian proletariat lost the peace that followed
Emrys
Feb 2025
#90
That Gish gallop has so many untruths in it that I just can't be bothered to respond,
Emrys
Feb 2025
#5
Exactly. My only remaining question is which side of the horseshoe it is coming from...
W_HAMILTON
Feb 2025
#34
One problem is that so many Ukrainians have been displaced from those areas or killed,
Emrys
Feb 2025
#13
That tends to happen after genocide and when you don't want to be part of it (see bold below)
Emrys
Feb 2025
#91
Ukraine already won the war. Russia will keep winning battles, but they are losing the war.
Beastly Boy
Feb 2025
#20
Beastly..I gotta. Say that your post helps with my depression over this issue..I didn't look at it from that perspective
Deuxcents
Feb 2025
#69
Jake Broe disagrees with you. He still sees a Russian economic or political collapse as more likely
Quixote1818
Feb 2025
#45
The Ukrainians have debunked that theory that Johnson was instrumental in their decision
Emrys
Feb 2025
#76
I've been plain with you about what I find objectionable - it's being categorical and predicting outcomes
Emrys
Feb 2025
#82
I infinitely enjoy interactions on DU... I've learned so much about topics I knew nothing about.
WarGamer
Feb 2025
#86
The "Wishcasting" seems to be going in both directions based on what others are saying about your previous posts
Quixote1818
Feb 2025
#57
I could fill a thread with reputable economists and analysts who've been predicting the same
Emrys
Feb 2025
#54
I didn't think Putin would invade Ukraine... didn't believe that we could see another European WW2 style conflict.
WarGamer
Feb 2025
#75
Or did you cherry-pick an article and post it here to further a pro-Russian narrative?
W_HAMILTON
Feb 2025
#83
Agree... I also think Ukraine will be wildly successful after the war is over.
WarGamer
Feb 2025
#72
What's really upsetting is that Elon Musk is the primary benefactor in all of this.
Initech
Feb 2025
#73
We will have to see if Europe and Nato allow Putin and the Mango Malefactor to dictate the terms of surrender to Ukraine
CentralMass
Feb 2025
#101
Germany delivering 6,000 HX-2 (swarm capable) AI attack drones to Ukraine
Red Mountain
Feb 2025
#107