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kentuck

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10. We need to stop fighting the battles we have already won.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sun Mar 30, 2025, 09:48 AM

Mar 30

And that the majority of the American people agree with us on.

Most Americans agree that despite our biases and prejudices, we are all created equal. They don't have to accept any lifestyle they disagree with, but all Americans have the individual right to believe and worship the way they want. We do not believe in discriminating against those that might be different from us.

We need to accept this as proof of Democratic victories that have already been fought.

We do not need to put it at the top of any political agenda, in my opinion. We need to talk to people about issues that they are concerned about, in regards to their families daily survival and the needs of their families, including education, healthcare, and security in their homes and neighborhoods.

Just my opinion, but we should not get sucked into making "trans in sports" the major topic of political discussion. They have their rights, as everyone else, and that is our position. There is no need for further discussion, in my opinion. It is the duty of the Democratic Party to defend those that might be a minority or frowned on by the majority of society.

Just my opinion.

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Gavin Newsom said the "Democratic brand is toxic" and we need to stop talking down to people. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Mar 30 OP

Was that a request or an order, master? Conjuay Mar 30 #1

What does that mean talking down? Isnt he doing that here? talking down to us while Nazis rampage through the govt.? Blues Heron Mar 30 #2

But we're the people it's OK to talk Bettie Mar 30 #4

That's exactly what I just asked.. "Didn't he talk down Cha Mar 30 #66

When do Republicans ever insult themselves this way? Maybe YOU talked down to people, Gavin, Wingus Dingus Mar 30 #3

When we are losing elections to Donald Trump you comradebillyboy Mar 30 #5

I have to agree RJ-MacReady Mar 30 #11

Personal anecdote UpInArms Mar 30 #13

Was Bill Clinton really a "uniter"? karynnj Mar 30 #12

+1 leftstreet Mar 30 #22

As you observed Clinton and Obama both united comradebillyboy Monday #95

And they both lost the Congress trying to hard to work with republicans standingtall Friday #97

The problem is real but his solution is weak. yardwork Mar 30 #15

..we should be direct with Maggots.. thomski64 Mar 30 #33

I don't agree. We may take Matt Gaetz's seat. In order to defeat Trump and Maga Demsrule86 Mar 30 #49

Did you respond to the wrong post by accident? yardwork Mar 30 #50

This and money in politics has been the problem. Bluethroughu Mar 30 #89

So you are suggesting we embrace bigotry and fascism with a smile. travelingthrulife Mar 30 #20

It's MAGA who are constantly talking about these things. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 30 #32

+1. Biden et al wasted time and energy on painting and remodeling and ignored the arsonist lurking around the corner dalton99a Mar 30 #24

Oh we should agree Henry203 Mar 30 #26

The Republicans in state legislatures are running amok. Boomerproud Mar 30 #35

Seems like the problem is that Bettie Mar 30 #67

Exactly! People don't give a shit about pro-nouns. Xolodno Mar 30 #69

They don't care about their grocery bill though Bettie Mar 30 #74

You demonstrated the point perfectly. Xolodno Mar 30 #75

I live in a very red county in a very red town Bettie Mar 30 #78

What I'm advocating... Xolodno Mar 30 #80

In several cases? choie Mar 30 #91

You don't reference voter fraud, suppression, etc... as factors, which is an incomplete picture. 58Sunliner Mar 30 #83

"moving to the left while the world moves to the right" AStern Mar 30 #92

That's right, we need to get in the gutter with them and expose them for what they are. bucolic_frolic Mar 30 #6

Will someone please go to Apple Music & search "Gavin Newsom podcast" & tell me what the search comes up with? CrispyQ Mar 30 #7

We are supposed to make nice with vicious psychopaths. Irish_Dem Mar 30 #8

..fuck Newsome.. thomski64 Mar 30 #34

I used to believe snowybirdie Mar 30 #9

We need to stop fighting the battles we have already won. kentuck Mar 30 #10

I mostly agree with this. yardwork Mar 30 #14

Yes! Cirsium Mar 30 #54

The activist tail has wagged the party dog for too long Sympthsical Mar 30 #16

This RJ-MacReady Mar 30 #25

funny how it doesn't work that way for Republicans though eShirl Mar 30 #38

Because of how our politics currently work Sympthsical Mar 30 #40

Have you noticed how "compromise" blubunyip Mar 30 #42

So, just become Republicans? Bettie Mar 30 #76

Who said that? Sympthsical Mar 30 #79

I think you are spot on RJ-MacReady Mar 30 #86

THIS 100!!! Rainman4u2C Mar 30 #93

The fact that he appeared on Real Time With Bill Maher doesn't exactly inspire confidence in his thought process. nt ImNotGod Mar 30 #17

Funny how Democrats are winning all the special elections recently Mysterian Mar 30 #18

If you consider Newsom is correct that our "brand" is toxic, he is exactly what we don't need karynnj Mar 30 #19

I'd say the reason dems have a 27٪ approval is Luz Mar 30 #21

Totally agree mcar Mar 30 #23

The irony is it's MAGA who is always talking about those issues DemocratSinceBirth Mar 30 #27

Says the man that dined with a group at the French Laundry during Covid lockdown. Enjoy retirement Gavin. dutch777 Mar 30 #28

"Democrat" is often used as code for Black or LGBT YorkRd Mar 30 #29

Or for BLM or Defund the Police Seeking Serenity Mar 30 #84

It's a shame to see him debasing himself in such a way. W_HAMILTON Mar 30 #30

Whenever someone says democrats talk down to people SocialDemocrat61 Mar 30 #31

Those people voted for a business fraud, a rapist and a traitor edbermac Mar 30 #36

Gavin Newsom is the GOAT at talking down to people. krawhitham Mar 30 #37

If anything, we need to talk down to them more. Initech Mar 30 #39

He needs to fire his advisors. His raw political motivations are showing. I am not against raw political motivations tulipsandroses Mar 30 #41

It appears a lot of democrats Keepthesoulalive Mar 30 #55

We need this story posted at least 10,000 times Prairie Gates Mar 30 #43

Newsom's marriage to Kimberly Guilfoyle make his brand toxic. Mponti Mar 30 #44

That was when he was still drinking ... TexasBushwhacker Mar 30 #63

At first blush, this doesn't seem much different than the favorite "critiquers" Nixie Mar 30 #45

It's only toxic because of lies told by Fox News alarimer Mar 30 #46

Bingo. thought crime Mar 30 #85

Newsom's marriage to Kimberly Guilfoyle make his brand toxic. Mponti Mar 30 #47

Seriously? That was almost 20 years ago. ShazzieB Friday #96

There is no such thing as a "Democratic Brand". Ping Tung Mar 30 #48

Gavin Newsom is sounding pretty toxic lately. milestogo Mar 30 #51

Excuse me, governor, but the California brand is toxic to the same people right now Walleye Mar 30 #52

In light we lost to the most flawed candidate ever..something needs to change Tribetime Mar 30 #53

He has a cult devoted to him Bettie Mar 30 #68

Let me be judgemental and point out there are only dead armadillos JCMach1 Mar 30 #56

He can help free us from the yoke of woke gulliver Mar 30 #57

There's some saying about "doctor heal thyself". This would be fine is posed as a sincere self-criticism. David__77 Mar 30 #58

Gavin Newsom's brand is toxic pinkstarburst Mar 30 #59

guess man took himself out of the running Nimble_Idea Mar 30 #60

Look I love the Democratic Party BlueKota Mar 30 #61

GN needs to get some therapy stat Meowmee Mar 30 #62

Gavin is forgetting one basic truth: GaYellowDawg Mar 30 #64

Didn't he just talk down to Dems? Cha Mar 30 #65

A number would say that's how Jimmy Carter... Xolodno Mar 30 #70

Carter lost because fifty four hostages were languishing in Iran and inflation was 13.55% in 1980. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 30 #71

And Reagan reportedly cut a deal BlueKota Mar 30 #73

Of course. That didn't help. Xolodno Mar 30 #77

How dare he. ObscurePiton Mar 30 #72

Give me an example of "talking down to people" that Dems have done. The GOP talks down to their constituents every Jit423 Mar 30 #81

gavin newsom should stop promoting fascists on his media outlets. nt msongs Mar 30 #82

What the fuck is this shit with him??? orangecrush Mar 30 #87

I don't like Nazis. I will never like Nazis. Bluethroughu Mar 30 #88

I have little interest in anything any 'leading Democrat' has to say, who also now Jack Valentino Mar 30 #90

Well, there goes any chance he has for a run for president... William Gustafson Mar 30 #94