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Wed Apr 2, 2025, 10:43 PM Apr 2025

Tariffs are a sales tax and operate essentially the same way. [View all]

Tariffs are levied on Americans who buy goods from other counties.

Sales taxes are levied on Americans who sell goods and services.

In both cases, the cost is invariably passed on to end consumers, whether it's explicitly listed on the receipt or not.

With sales taxes, it's pretty universal to explicitly note the sales tax on the receipt, but this is just the retailer's way of blaming part of the cost on the government. A retailer is free to just say "we'll take care of sales tax" as long as they pay the government the right amount. It's not a direct tax on consumers, it's a tax on retailers.

Tariffs are really the same, they're just levied a little upstream, on the importer. But the cost is passed on, it's just less common to explicitly note the separate out the tariff when passing the cost on.

So call it a tax. As a practical matter, it operates the same way. The government collected from Americans, and the consumer ends up paying more to cover it.


So there you have it. Donnie just announced one of the most massive taxes ever imposed on American consumers.

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Tariffs are more like a VAT... Wounded Bear Apr 2025 #1
VAT are very common in Canada and throughout the EU. MichMan Apr 2025 #3
There are NO VAT taxes in Canada. Simple ordinary sales tax pays for health care. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #13
Just going by what I read MichMan Apr 2025 #24
I think that is a US-centric, conserva-centric misinterpretation Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #25
Agreed, my point is broadly these are all the same thing. unblock Apr 2025 #4
True dat, but... Justice matters. Apr 2025 #5
I live in a country with a VAT Pototan Apr 2025 #19
Just like all other taxes on businesses like income, property, and payroll taxes MichMan Apr 2025 #2
HOWEVER, sales taxes and VAT's have to be passed by voters, whereas ... usonian Apr 2025 #6
Good point. unblock Apr 2025 #7
Red coats have become red hats under King Mucus and Been a Dick Arnold. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #11
"T" should be dumped into Boston Harbor usonian Apr 2025 #15
T for Teslas in Boston Harbour too. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #16
OK as long as sharks and batteries are on opposite coasts. usonian Apr 2025 #20
Good one and good pic! . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #22
The purpose of raising revenue with tariffs is to justify flamingdem Apr 2025 #8
Yes. And Donnie also likes tariffs because they're completely in his control unblock Apr 2025 #9
Which they shouldn't be if Congress would do their jobs... Wounded Bear Apr 2025 #28
So far Argentina playing ball flamingdem Apr 2025 #29
Tariff taxes are regressive Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #10
Eventually, the ordinary renter will have to cover the cost of that lumber and steel, unblock Apr 2025 #14
They've wanted their flat tax forever. Seems like they are slipping it in under the wire. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2025 #12
Tariff taxes are regressive, not flat Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #17
You are correct. I was thinking more like national sales tax which is very regressive and closer to the tariffs. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2025 #18
It is exactly that, tariffs are a national sales tax. The price taxed is the entry value. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #23
They've been really licking their chops for something, anything, really regressive to punish the useless eater poors. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2025 #27
Also announced now charging 30% on all foreign internet purchases wishstar Apr 2025 #21
The way to deal with tariffs The Madcap Apr 2025 #26
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