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In reply to the discussion: Hamas admits 72% of deaths are combat-aged men as it quietly reduces civilian death toll - report [View all]AloeVera
(3,990 posts)28. The 50K+ dead is still true. Verified and ID'd and formally reported.
Whether 3K+ were "quietly" dropped or not makes no difference to the 50K+ dead, does it?
You know what really amazes me is that intelligent, inquisitive people who can smell bullshit from a mile away when it comes to the Trump Regime for example, cannot seem to apply the same intellectual rigour and smarts when it comes to most things about Israel.
Honest Reporting, really? A spreadsheet using mystery methodology, lack of any reporting or supporting evidence as "research", really? Nothing on their website at all about this "research", really? 13-year old boys classified as "men" and therefore combatants, really? Quietly dropped but then apparently quietly replaced by verified "true dead" apparently as the totals didn't change - really?
Obviously the propaganda I was referring to is the one by Honest Reporting. It transparently serves to push the narrative that Hamas' numbers can't be relied on - so maybe it's not true that 50K+ were killed, or that most of them were women and kids? Of course classifying 13-17 year-old dead boys as "men" so that they can be viewed as "combatants" is laughably transparent propaganda. It's also a good example of how when it comes to Palestinians, even their kids are not viewed as kids as if somehow they were lesser humans, closer to animals. And that point is not even noticed, let alone raised by any Israel supporter, very revealing too.
It's exactly this view of Palestinians that allows for any sympathy for Palestinians to be labelled and mocked as merely "performative outrage". As if something like human solidarity and God forbid - EMPATHY - with them is impossible to imagine...
I don't understand this view and never will.
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Hamas admits 72% of deaths are combat-aged men as it quietly reduces civilian death toll - report [View all]
Mosby
Apr 2025
OP
HonestReporting is an advocacy group, not a journalistic or reporting group, fwiw.
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2025
#5
I believe the point of the OP is that Hamas has no credibility, not Hamas suddenly becoming credible.
Beastly Boy
Apr 2025
#11
I will certainly respond accordingly the minute I see a genuine effort to have a constructive discussion.
Beastly Boy
Apr 2025
#25
Nice, I could't have asked for a better illustration of grossly misinformed anti-Israel bias.
Beastly Boy
Apr 2025
#31
I have been critical of Israel's conduct of the war. Bears no relation to Israel as a society.
AloeVera
Apr 2025
#35
All the more reason to believe my outrage and anger are real and not "performative" - no?
AloeVera
Apr 2025
#43
No. In fact, your post explicitly confirms the bias in your outrage and its disingenuous nature.
Beastly Boy
Apr 2025
#44
In deference to the DU terms of service. You know what this means, don't you?
Beastly Boy
Apr 2025
#46
Good question. If you can't confirm or deny what Hamas is reporting at any given moment,
Beastly Boy
Apr 2025
#32
Naturally. And I have my doubts if that is accurate. The civilian death toll is likely much less.
Oopsie Daisy
Apr 2025
#42